Posted on 03/20/2019 7:59:44 AM PDT by Heartlander
Pay and prestige.
For all the lip service STEM education gets, liberals actually have no use for it.I say that because to them everything is political, and STEM doesnt work that way. And because for all their prattle about how socialism (under their tutelage) will provide quality health care, socialism inherently is the death of quality because it is the death of innovation.
Their system is to take all the profit out of every endeavor (except government, of course), and the first casualty of that is innovation. And because If you are not trying to get better, you are getting worse, the death of innovation - of trying to get better - saps quality even from existing operations done in (nominally) the same old way.
“....The bottom line is that STEM education has become too important to be left to the educators any longer, or to the educational bureaucrats. Its high time the Department of Defense and national security agencies weigh in, as they did post-Sputnik, so that Americas future doesnt pass into the hands of foreign nationals, no matter how talented or willing, by default. ....”
They have!
https://www.cia.gov/careers/student-opportunities
https://www.nsa.gov/resources/students-educators/
https://dodstem.us/stem-programs/scholarships
I’ve been told they have trouble filling these slots.
Some guy from India with a fake BSEE degree hired sight unseen for peanuts, while the American with a real BSEE can't even get a job interview. There's your "crisis" in a nutshell.
I wouldn't recommend any American pursue an engineering degree. No matter how good you are, you will never be paid what you're worth because some Haji has claimed a spot with his H-1B.
H1B is nothing short of treasonous to me.
I agree with you. Students will choose to go into STEM fields if there are jobs at the end of the hardest degrees to earn.
There is zero, no, justification for H1-Bs in the US. Zero.
For American Corporations - train your people. It’s not even that expensive.
As an (American) person with a child graduating with a degree in Physics from a top university, this is what I see.
Our fake, printed, fiat monetary system, manipulated by the Federal Reserve is distorting incentives - and has for decades.
At least half of my child’s friends in physics or engineering have been attracted to work for Wall Street (algo trading, data analysis), or the biggest tech - Amazon, Google, Facebook. Another large portion will continue their studies (mostly paid for by the universities) at PhD level. Presumably they will do research at university or government laboratories. Remember too that probably 10-20% of these graduates are foreign nationals as well.
I heard of one boy, from last year’s class, who is working at Boeing.
That’s all - not one of these very impressive kids is going to any American industrial, electronics or computer firm. They either don’t pay the salaries to complete with the money-traders, or do not do the recruitment at these schools.
HALF! One-half of our STEM related degreed folks NEVER WORK IN THE STEM FIELD. Of those that do, 75% are no longer performing STEM functions after 10 years. There is a HUGE glut of unwanted older STEM related professionals that have been essentially cast aside after 15-20 years of experience.
Obviously we can teach it in the colleges pretty well or all of these foreign students would not be coming here.
The culprit, once again, appears to be our bloated, politicized, unionized public school system.
Sputnick took more than 8 minutes to orbit earth.
sputnik
H-1B is economic treason.
Yup. 12X what the author stated.
Orbital Period: 96.2 minutes.
No, it’s not lucrative to ruin your college years studying the “hard sciences” when an H-1B salve is going to suppress your wages and take your job
1) MORE MONEY. ...government scholarships and funding (including Department of Defense funding...and encouraging universities and colleges to offer tuition waivers for those same students
2) MORE GOVERNMENT. ...more direct [government] coordination with the high-tech corporate sector.
3) IMPROVE EDUCATION. ...a K12 "teaching offensive," aimed specifically at those critical knowledge bases. It should incorporate new thinking about how to teach math and science as well as oldold, that is, in terms of best-practice models, including those of countries that consistently outperform us in the international rankings.
Life has gotten too easy and rich in the United States. It's too easy for people to live a good life without putting in a huge amount of effort. The WW I / Great Depression / WW II hardened two generations of Americans. There was a can-do / "we can lick the world" sense of wonder in the land. Today? Not so much.
The underlying bigger questions are how to revive Animal Spirits and get young people off dope.
Exactly right. Nothing kills the human spirit faster or more than collectivism. And the left is all about collectivism — everything they do (EVERYTHING) is oriented toward that one objective. To the extent that leftists continue making inroads with their collectivist thinking and governance, this ship cannot be turned around.
Freedom, liberty, owning the fruits of your own labor, innovation — none of these thrive in a collectivist system.
“Why should I work hard when others take away what I create?”
I honestly cannot imagine a system more corrosive to the human soul than collectivism. Except perhaps Hades.
1. H-1B immigrants —> American kids “Why go into STEM when the Indians and Chinese come and take the jobs?”
2. American Business —> “We need more STEM students. American kids won’t go into STEM. Ergo, we need more H-1B immigrants.”
3. Go to #1.
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