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Christchurch shooting: 40 dead in terrorist attack at two mosques
The Guardian ^ | 03/14/19

Posted on 03/14/2019 11:47:45 PM PDT by Simon Green

New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed 40 people have died in today’s shooting, with 20 injured.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


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To: Simon Green

It is false to assert that all conspiracy theories are by nature “non-existent” or trigger by “fear”.

When a prosecutor works to make a criminal case, he has to piece together evidence and find a way to tie it all together. Not all prosecutors arrive at the correct conclusion.

“conspiracy” is a charge that several parties coordinate to commit a crime.

I don’t support claims that the shooting was fake or created by government or globalist figures.

But it is erroneous to claim that all “conspiracy theories” are “non-existent” and grounded in “fear”.

It’s as bad as people claiming that as “creationists” (God as Creator of Universe) believe the world is only 6,000 years old. If you believe God exists, you almost certainly believe God is Creator. Otherwise God sat idle while the Big Bang surprised Him, God(s) sprang forth from the Big Bang, or God does not exist. Those are the only 4 possibilities.


21 posted on 03/15/2019 12:30:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Simon Green

and as several people have been arrested in these attacks, early police investigation is that a “Conspiracy” was afoot.


22 posted on 03/15/2019 12:31:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Like I said becore, if the laws were applied, these mosques would not even be there. Most of them are foreign state sponsored entities praying to foreign powers much like the Anglicans were banned to do during the Independence.

My take is that the government, which easily ban the visits of the like of Liberty Bell, perfectly knows what they are doing , being bribed or even freely willing to let this provocation go on. On top of it all, we have a leftwing nut, whose manifesto is a carbon copy of Karl Marx’s and whose means of atarting a gun control war is enunciated as key, is being called a right wing extremist because he also added one detail which was racial independence what not.

The whole narrative is bullsht set up from the get go.


23 posted on 03/15/2019 12:31:54 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll

there is attention in Australia and New Zealand to the rights and treatment of the indigenous peoples of each of those nations.

How did this guy reconcile his “anti-imperial” and “protection of heritage and culture” stances with the bushmen?


24 posted on 03/15/2019 12:35:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: a fool in paradise
It is false to assert that all conspiracy theories are by nature “non-existent” or trigger by “fear”.

When a prosecutor works to make a criminal case, he has to piece together evidence and find a way to tie it all together. Not all prosecutors arrive at the correct conclusion.

“conspiracy” is a charge that several parties coordinate to commit a crime.

From the article;

A conspiracy theory is not simply a conspiracy. Barkun writes that conspiracies are "actual covert plots planned and/or carried out by two or more persons". A conspiracy theory, on the other hand, is "an intellectual construct", a "template imposed upon the world to give the appearance of order to events". Positing that "some small and hidden group" has manipulated events, a conspiracy theory can be local or international, focused on single events or covering multiple incidents and entire countries, regions and periods of history. Conspiracy theorists see themselves as having privileged access to special knowledge or a special mode of thought that separates them from the masses who believe the official account

25 posted on 03/15/2019 12:37:44 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: a fool in paradise
and as several people have been arrested in these attacks, early police investigation is that a “Conspiracy” was afoot

From the article;

A conspiracy theory is not simply a conspiracy. Barkun writes that conspiracies are "actual covert plots planned and/or carried out by two or more persons". A conspiracy theory, on the other hand, is "an intellectual construct", a "template imposed upon the world to give the appearance of order to events". Positing that "some small and hidden group" has manipulated events, a conspiracy theory can be local or international, focused on single events or covering multiple incidents and entire countries, regions and periods of history. Conspiracy theorists see themselves as having privileged access to special knowledge or a special mode of thought that separates them from the masses who believe the official account

26 posted on 03/15/2019 12:40:06 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: Simon Green

a batsh!tcrazy conspiracy theory is not the only sort of conspiracy theory.

a scientific theory is a theory whether or not it is scientific in its approach

a conspiracy theory is not itself a conspiracy. It is a THEORY


27 posted on 03/15/2019 12:41:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
Too lazy to google?

How weak. You're apparently too lazy to present your own case, but want someone else to do it for you.

Automatic fail.

28 posted on 03/15/2019 12:48:59 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Kazan

Trump will blamed by all the usual suspects.


29 posted on 03/15/2019 12:56:13 AM PDT by Spiridon
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To: Simon Green
Conspiracy theorists see themselves as having privileged access to special knowledge or a special mode of thought that separates them from the masses who believe the official account

Reminds me of a certain quasi religious cult right here on Free Republic.

30 posted on 03/15/2019 12:56:56 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yep. Definitely should be a Friday, I thought it would be today with Weissmann’s departure.


31 posted on 03/15/2019 12:57:00 AM PDT by NImerc
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To: Windflier

Your post is spot on.


32 posted on 03/15/2019 12:57:28 AM PDT by Fury
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To: a fool in paradise

Mueller is financed into September. Would he leave money on the table?


33 posted on 03/15/2019 1:23:31 AM PDT by arthurus (sd)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Terrible.”

I thought he got a pretty high score. Set an record since this is the first reverse terror attack I’ve ever heard of, unless we count that Norway guy who took out that socialist youth camp.

Our reaction should be “We are a religion of peace” and “liberals are to blame.”


34 posted on 03/15/2019 1:28:23 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Simon Green

muslims do this kind of slaughter of Christians routinely but it’s rarely even reported by the msm.


35 posted on 03/15/2019 1:32:10 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Nah, I don’t take any pleasure from seeing a group shot up.

This guy is a hard core Lefty too.


36 posted on 03/15/2019 1:37:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

from Brenton Tarrant’s manifesto. have seen it mentioned, but so far have only found OpIndia reporting it:

15 Mar: OpIndia: Terrorist who attacked New Zealand mosque said China is closest to his political and social values
The manifesto was uploaded on document sharing website Scribd by Matthew Keys, an independent journalist based in San Francisco, but the document was later removed.
by OpIndia staff
The manifesto was created on January 21st and was updated yesterday before the shooting took place...
The journalist confirmed that the document was not removed by him...

However, the terrorist says that he is not a conservative since conservatism is corporatism in disguise. To the questions of whether he is a ‘left-wing’ or a ‘right-wing’, the terrorist has no answer in particular and to both, he says it depends on the definition that people attach to it.
He says that depending on the definition attached to Socialism, he could certainly be one. He says if the definition means workers’ ownership of the means of production, then it would depend on who those workers are and what their intent is and who currently ‘owns the state’.

To the question about whether he was a fascist, he says “The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China”...

He says that when he was young, he was a communist, then an anarchist and finally, a libertarian before coming to be an ‘eco-fascist’...
https://www.opindia.com/2019/03/terrorist-who-attacked-new-zealand-mosque-said-china-is-closest-to-his-political-and-social-values/


37 posted on 03/15/2019 1:42:14 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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I read an odd story that HRC and John Podesta were in NZ last week. I had thought it about offshore accounts but couldn’t explain it.


38 posted on 03/15/2019 1:48:38 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: a fool in paradise

protecting muslims at all cost, is there anywhere in the world where this cancer has not taken a foothold


39 posted on 03/15/2019 2:06:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: ronnie raygun

I guess some frogs actually don’t wait to be boiled in the pot...


40 posted on 03/15/2019 2:22:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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