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Maine senators want a bump in work visas due to tight market
AP ^ | 06 Mar 2019 | uncredited

Posted on 03/06/2019 1:32:58 AM PST by blueplum

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To: Windflier
So we’re saying that Maine now has 100% employment? No full time welfare recipients laying about? How about able bodied homeless? High school grads? Moms needing part time work? Elderly?

The H-2B Visa is for non-agriculture, seasonal workers, primarily in the tourist/hospitality industry. Many of these people work at resorts as waitstaff, hosts and hostesses, cooks, housekeeping, and other highly visible positions that interact with the guests. In my experience, many of these positions are filled by people from Eastern Europe, and to a lesser extent, Ireland, the UK, Spain, and Portugal. They are generally educated, fluent in English, well-groomed, and well-behaved, and they often take these jobs, not for the money, but for the cultural experience. The last people that a resort owner wants in these positions are uneducated, illiterate, unreliable, and occasionally hygienically challenged welfare queens and homeless people interacting with guests who are paying thousands of dollars for a resort vacation. As for high school grads and part-time moms, there are not enough of them who are willing to take a temporary, seasonal position that requires long hours of hard work for low pay at a location that is often many miles from home and family. Indeed, many of these seasonal H-2B workers are provided room and board in a dormitory-like setting on or near the resort that is part of the compensation package.

61 posted on 03/06/2019 8:22:57 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: New Perspective

Thanks.

Driving around Maine in the Fall of 2016, I saw mostly TRUMP yard signs, and a GREAT many of them.

Low income people here in Maine really identify with the president....he really IS a blue collar billionaire.

And Don Jr. is fantastic....he visited a gun shop and a gun range here in Maine during the campaign.


62 posted on 03/06/2019 8:26:00 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (President Trump is right! The media IS the enemy of the people!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Low income people here in Maine really identify with the president....he really IS a blue collar billionaire.

Too bad most mainstream GOPers don't.

63 posted on 03/06/2019 8:27:40 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Labyrinthos

How on earth did this country ever get by without millions of foreigners working American jobs?

After all, Americans are just so shiftless, lazy, uneducated - and as you say - hygienically challenged.


64 posted on 03/06/2019 8:52:57 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: blueplum
increased number of work visas to help small businesses find seasonal workers

Look, a gifted millennial with 3 degrees and not a single minute of work experience sure ain't gonna do anything for less than $75,000 a year, because they deserve it. Frankly, according to AOC $200,000+ is barely enough to get by and $150,000 Amazon jobs are an insult.

65 posted on 03/06/2019 9:00:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Windflier

How on earth did this country ever get by without millions of foreigners working American jobs?

After all, Americans are just so shiftless, lazy, uneducated - and as you say - hygienically challenged.

The US has a long history of foreign workers coming here for seasonal employment, then going home. From farm labor to circus labors and performers to hospitality workers and on and on. It is only new to the ignorant.


66 posted on 03/06/2019 9:46:19 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: central_va
Stagnant wages have nothing to do with a lazy , drug addled workforce .
How long have you been a commie union thug?
67 posted on 03/06/2019 9:51:43 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller
The US has a long history of foreign workers coming here for seasonal employment, then going home. From farm labor to circus labors and performers to hospitality workers and on and on. It is only new to the ignorant.

And it needs to stop.

68 posted on 03/06/2019 9:54:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

” indentured servants “ make prevailing wage?

What commie union do you belong too?


70 posted on 03/06/2019 9:57:09 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller

The whole point of them is to suppress the prevailing wage you economic idiot. Plus who houses and supports these invaders?


71 posted on 03/06/2019 9:59:47 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
Reading your dumb ass comments is dumbing everyone down. Is JERRY Spinger your favorite show?
72 posted on 03/06/2019 9:59:57 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller
Hey, if the greedy tourist trap owners paid $50.00/hr would they have enough workers? Hell Yes. So the trick is to find a price point for labor between minimum wage and $50.00/hr. IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

The solution is not to import wage slaves.

73 posted on 03/06/2019 10:03:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
It costs the employers more to hire them and they pay them higher wages than local places and the employer provides housing. They are driving wages up , genius!

You really are ignorant of how the H2B program works if you have to ask......get educated and quit posting dumbass remarks!

74 posted on 03/06/2019 10:06:49 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller
It costs the employers more to hire them and they pay them higher wages than local places and the employer provides housing. They are driving wages up , genius!

BS. If the indentured are more expansive they wouldn't do it. I have no use for lying GOP slavers and I have no use for you so I politely say you should FOAD.

75 posted on 03/06/2019 10:09:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va
They already are paying way more than minimum wage to get a drug free , no problem , clean record employee.

Are you really that stupid you cant understand that?

You have no concept of the current issues of available seasonal employees. You and you union thug Communist Democrats have done everything you can to cause these problems!

76 posted on 03/06/2019 10:17:53 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: central_va

Shows you how ignorant you are of the H2B program. The employers have to first publish hiring notices and do interviews before they can apply for workers from the H2B program...

Of course you knew that right, GENIUS?


77 posted on 03/06/2019 10:27:19 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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The employers have to first publish hiring notices and do interviews before they can apply for workers from the H2B program...

Of course we should believe these corrupt bastards when they do their phony job search.

This is about H-1B, but same idea.

H-1b Visa Use and Abuse - Dena Moore, ex-Disney worker

78 posted on 03/06/2019 10:34:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: VRWCarea51

used to be visas.

We now have the equivalent of the population of Portland, Maine; or Pawtucket, Rhode Island; or Greenwich, Mass. jumping the border every month.


79 posted on 03/06/2019 11:27:24 AM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: central_va
The whole point of them is to suppress the prevailing wage you economic idiot. Plus who houses and supports these invaders?

You are either incredibly stupid or naive. They are not "invaders." Rather, they legally enter the country to work on a seasonal basis. The employer generally provides room and board, often in a dormitory/hostel type facility, the value of which is part of the worker's compensation. And unlike American workers, who can collect unemployment when laid off at the end of the season and may sue their employer for discrimination (I was laid -off because I am [insert victim of the day]), H-2B workers have no rights once their seasonal employment --and visa -- comes to an end.

As I previously stated, many of these foreign workers apply for this work, not for the money, but for the cultural experience of living and working in the USA. Many are college students or gap year students. Most are healthy, educated, reliable, speak fluent English, and come from middle-class to upper middle class families. They take these jobs, not for the money, but for the experience.

As to why Americans don't take these jobs, the answer is that many do, but there is not enough of them to meet the demand for a variety of reasons. For example, in the Northeast, where resorts and summer camps rely heavily upon H-2B workers, the resort season may run from Memorial Day Weekend to through Labor Day or perhaps Columbus Day. Many college students, however, return to college in Mid-August, which would leave the seasonal employer short-handed for the remainder of the season. Summer camps usually run July through August, but many college students want to start making money when the semester ends in April or May, before the summer camp season starts, and many have to return to college before the summer camp season ends.

And please do not suggest using welfare recipients and the homeless to fill these positions. First and foremost, these are businesses and the last thing a business owner wants is to fill highly visible positions with people who have never worked a real job in their lives and come from families who have been unemployed and on welfare for generations. Thanks, but no thanks.

80 posted on 03/06/2019 11:45:15 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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