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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accidentally exposes the left’s big lie
Washington Post ^ | February 14, 2019 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 02/15/2019 6:42:07 AM PST by grundle

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To: asinclair; All
The actual formulation of fertilizers and pesticides would be done using renewable energy sources. The amount of hydrocarbons actually put into said fertilizers and pesticides would be minuscule compared to the amount used to move the stuff.

This is the stuff of fantasy.

Natural gas is what is used to make nitrogen based fertilizer. That is the vast majority of fertilizer in the world.

When you check the nitrogen compounds in the human body, about 50% come from man-made fertilizer. Man-made fertilizer is made from the Haber process using natural gas.

To get away from fossil fuel based fertilizer, you have to reduce the human population by 50%.

21 posted on 02/16/2019 7:47:23 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Natural gas is what is used to make nitrogen based fertilizer.

So I followed your link about the Haber process. What I learned was that current practice is to obtain the hydrogen used in the process from natural gas. There are other sources of hydrogen available, such as electrolysis of water. So I stand by my comment.

22 posted on 02/16/2019 4:41:27 PM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: Ozark Tom

Sounds like Soylent Green New Deal...


23 posted on 02/16/2019 4:43:09 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: The Great RJ
They already have a plan for a future agriculture free of animal cruelty:

"In a distant field, beyond the town, they saw the figure of a man moving slowly, contorted by the ugliness of a physical effort beyond the proper use of a human body: he was pushing a plow by hand." -- Ayn Rand. Atlas Shrugged

24 posted on 02/16/2019 4:46:10 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: BBQToadRibs

“No planes? I have family in Hawaii. How do I get there? “

Sailing ship. The kind with bowsprits and mizzen masts and stuff. Very carbon neutral.

Book your passage now and beat the rush!


25 posted on 02/16/2019 4:46:59 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: The Great RJ

“Farmers use internal combustion driven machinery to plant, harvest and transport agricultural products to markets.”

Uhhh, excuussse me. Why do we need farmers and all of their messy dirty things?
People can just go to the grocery store for their food.


26 posted on 02/16/2019 4:47:53 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: asinclair
There are other sources of hydrogen available, such as electrolysis of water. So I stand by my comment.

I did a rough estimate. It could be done with about a thousandth of the nuclear power produced in a year.

You are correct.

It would be much more expensive, though.

27 posted on 02/16/2019 5:35:54 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: elcid1970
Sarc tag needed?

None needed we get your meaning .

28 posted on 02/16/2019 5:42:43 PM PST by piroque ("When the SHTF I'm gonna hunker down until all those idiots kill each other. ")
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To: grundle

Wish they would get the details out now....like France has done.


29 posted on 02/16/2019 5:44:31 PM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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