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Private health insurance exists in Europe and Canada. Here’s how it works.
Vox ^ | February 12, 2019 | Sarah Kliff

Posted on 02/12/2019 2:33:27 PM PST by riverdawg

Presidential hopefuls in the Democratic primary have in recent weeks found themselves facing a new litmus test: Do they want to eliminate private health insurance?

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) faced a straightforward version of this question and gave a straightforward response. “Let’s eliminate all that,” she said of private coverage.

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) faced a slightly more confusing version of this question and gave a slightly more confusing answer that indicated support for keeping certain parts of the health care system private.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthinsurance; medicare

1 posted on 02/12/2019 2:33:27 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

I believe it only exists in Canada due to successful lawsuits.


2 posted on 02/12/2019 2:34:46 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: riverdawg
Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) faced a slightly more confusing version of this question and gave a slightly more confusing answer that indicated support for keeping certain parts of the health care system private.

Yeah, theirs................

3 posted on 02/12/2019 2:39:06 PM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: riverdawg
My wife had to go to the hospital in Spain. They took her in while I tried to do the paperwork. When they finally took me back, it was in a huge open bay ward with about 30 beds side by side. Look like something out of MASH, with family members around each bed.

When the doctors came to give a diagnosis, the room would get quiet so everyone could hear what the doctor was saying in their “private conversations with the patients.

That’s social medicine - literally ...

4 posted on 02/12/2019 2:44:28 PM PST by 11th_VA (Hey RATs - Negotiate or Starve)
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To: riverdawg

America’s Medicaid and Medicare programs are, IMHO, effectively impossible to reform. The massive entrenched government and private interests will never allow serious change

So what should be done in the USA - allow states and counties to establish medical free-trade zones. Allow doctors to set up in particular areas, allow low or no income tax, limited liability, and cash payments.

We will need a secondary system to back up the expensive, failing, legacy systems.


5 posted on 02/12/2019 2:49:22 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

What reform does Medicare need?


6 posted on 02/12/2019 2:56:12 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: riverdawg

affirmative action Health care, You being white get put on a list they throw away when you leave.


7 posted on 02/12/2019 2:59:53 PM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: riverdawg

The glaring problem with this article and every article on Healthcare for all AKA Government controlled healthcare is they always try to explain how well it work her or there as if that means it will work the same way in the United States. That is simply nonsense. For example take several nations used in this article. Australia, Canada, England, Netherlands and Israel. Not one of these country’s have a population over 60 million people. The United States has over 325 million people spread of a much larger land mass then most of these smaller population countries. What may seem to work in a smaller nation of 17 million people is very unlikely to work the same way in a much larger nation with 325 million people.


8 posted on 02/12/2019 3:02:32 PM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: sparklite2
What reform does Medicare need?

Nothing, besides the fact it is hugely expensive, and along with other major entitlements, is incurring huge debt, and ever-growing interest payments

https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardgleckman/2018/06/06/no-medicare-wont-go-broke-in-2026-yes-it-will-cost-a-lot-more-money/#596203cd7eb1

https://www.heritage.org/medicare/commentary/medicare-will-be-insolvent-2026-can-america-fix-it-time

9 posted on 02/12/2019 3:05:22 PM PST by PGR88
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To: sparklite2

Allow people to opt out of Medicare and not lose social security.
Give those that opt of of Medicare a voucher (in lieu of Medicare coverage) towards the purchase a private policy. To save money for the program, the voucher could be less than the cost of Medicare coverage.
Allow Medicare patients to see doctors (that accept Medicare) and engage in private contracting and negotiate prices.


10 posted on 02/12/2019 3:07:26 PM PST by grumpygresh (The only check on a rogue DOJ and FBI is jury nullification.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I believe it only exists in Canada due to successful lawsuits.”

Canada seems to have the most restrictive law regarding private supplemental policies of the countries discussed in the article. I suppose that is why almost every orthopedic surgeon in my area (far from the Canadian border) has Canadian patients.


11 posted on 02/12/2019 3:18:56 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: grumpygresh

Employer health and dental benefits do not cover physician care. A medical doctor cannot (with a few exceptions for non-essential procedures such as plastic surgery), charge a fee for services in a clinic or hospital. What you typically get is some level of prescription drugs, semi-private hospital room, non-emergency ambulance. Dentists and optometrists can still operate privately. A friend of mine just received notice of a specialist appointment for a serious (but not imminently life-threatening) condition after waiting 22 Months. 6 to12 month wait times are very common. This is what awaits Americans if you ever adopt “single payer” health care.


12 posted on 02/12/2019 3:21:03 PM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: riverdawg

eliminating private insurance for the public but not for politicians ...


13 posted on 02/12/2019 3:24:04 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: littleharbour

“6 to12 month wait times are very common. This is what awaits Americans if you ever adopt “single payer” health care.”

What happens to all the specialists and clinics we have now? Why would they suddenly have year-long wait times?


14 posted on 02/12/2019 3:32:02 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: 11th_VA
I went down to St. James Infirmary, Saw my baby there, Stretched out on a long white table, So cold, so sweet, so fair.

Let her go, let her go, God bless her, Wherever she may be, She can look this wide world over, But she'll never find a sweet man like me.

15 posted on 02/12/2019 3:46:27 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: PGR88

“What reform does Medicare need?”

Medical professionals/hospitals should be paid more.

I’m not one.


16 posted on 02/12/2019 3:50:06 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Of course it’s BS. Take it from this ex-Canuck, the idiot is half right...you can purchase technically, “private” insurance but the provincial govt (they are mostly anti-American/capitalist morons) will make your life a living hell. You may buy half, but half HAS to belong to Canada, in case you require surgery. The country doesn’t like it when they are out of the loop and not make money...


17 posted on 02/12/2019 3:53:42 PM PST by max americana (Happily Fired every stupid liberal at every election since 08' at work. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: 48th SPS Crusader

“What may seem to work in a smaller nation of 17 million people is very unlikely to work the same way in a much larger nation with 325 million people.”

True that. What works for ethnic Switzerland sure as hell wouldn’t work for the “diverse” melange of —— that is the US.


18 posted on 02/12/2019 3:58:10 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: 11th_VA

When I went to the hospital in Hamburg, Germany to visit my 90 year old neighbor, I wandered around the floor for about 15 minutes, trying to find anyone to make sure they knew I was going in to visit. Finally I heard some laughter and went through a small maze to the break room, where everybody was on break at the same time.

They just told me to go on in the room. When I opened the door, there were eight beds lined up and old ladies occupied each of them. You’re right, they all went quiet to listen to what my neighbor and I were talking about.


19 posted on 02/12/2019 8:10:01 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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