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New Jersey wants to tax the rain
New York Post ^ | February 9, 2019 | 4:56pm | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 02/10/2019 8:07:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Saving money for a rainy day isn’t just a good idea in New Jersey — it’s about to become the law.

Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy is poised to sign a “rain tax” bill passed by the state legislature Jan. 31 — and Republicans and lots of taxpayers are howling with rage.

“Every time you think there’s nothing left to tax, we come up with something else,” Assemblyman Hal Wirths (R-Morris-Sussex) exploded during a debate on the measure.

“It’s just never-ending down here.”

The law allows each of the state’s 565 municipalities to set up its own public stormwater utility. The new bureaucracies will build and manage sewer systems to treat pollutant-filled stormwater runoff.

The infrastructure could cost billions, state authorities say. Under the law, the utilities can levy steep fees on properties with large parking lots, long driveways, or big buildings — which create the most runoff.

The state would scoop up 5 percent of the proceeds.

The idea for the new fee goes back to 2010, when President Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency ordered states whose rivers and streams flow into the Chesapeake Bay to drastically cut sediment pollution.

Maryland was the first to fall into line, with a 2012 law that charged cleanup costs to property owners — and sparked taxpayer fury. Republican Larry Hogan’s promise to repeal the “rain tax” helped sweep him into the governor’s mansion in 2014.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Under the law, the utilities can levy steep fees on properties with large parking lots, long driveways, or big buildings...


1 posted on 02/10/2019 8:07:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Raindrops keep fallin’ on my head
But that doesn’t mean my eyes will soon be turnin’ red
Crying’s not for me
Cause I’m never gonna stop the rain by complainin’
Because I’m free
Nothing’s worryin’ me

(Except maybe those damn taxes)


2 posted on 02/10/2019 8:13:00 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A hard rain's gonna fall on New Jersey.
3 posted on 02/10/2019 8:16:33 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The most appropriate song of all:

“As long as I remember
The rain’s been comin’ down
Clouds of mystery pourin’
Confusion on the ground....


4 posted on 02/10/2019 8:23:20 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here it comes, another case of stupidity forcing every corporation with a parking lot to leave the state. And remember, stupid RAT reps don’t know they are stupid. Run, run for your corporate lives, run to the border as fast as you can.


5 posted on 02/10/2019 8:23:47 PM PST by Fungi
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What about all the roads and highways? With the new green deal they will order everybody to tear out all concrete and asphalt paving and replace with gravel. You won’t need the paving because there will be no cars or even beasts of burden. You won’t even have wheels. You will carry everything around on your back. When you need a taxi, some poor schmuck will show up and give you a ride on his rickshaw. Ain’t the future great?


6 posted on 02/10/2019 8:24:23 PM PST by HighSierra5
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Dems in NJ have not thought this through....there remains dust,snow, sleet, wind, lightning...in the end ALL weather is potentially taxable to the Democrat mind.


7 posted on 02/10/2019 8:28:27 PM PST by givemELL
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

8 posted on 02/10/2019 8:29:35 PM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Below link is to rational management of urban runoff. It should be noted that tax is not mentioned once in the article. It is about how new construction and water management should be done. This article is from Texas A&M one of the few rational universities in Texas but this sadly is rapidly fading. Their science, math, engineering and medical are still first rate. The liberal arts department is crap.

https://agrilifecdn.tamu.edu/fisheries/files/2013/10/Managing-Urban-Stormwater-Ponds-article-format.pdf


9 posted on 02/10/2019 8:34:28 PM PST by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

MD ping, if only to note the past ( but could still come back).


10 posted on 02/10/2019 9:16:40 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Dumb As A Stump


11 posted on 02/10/2019 10:08:00 PM PST by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A way to include church properties in taxation.


12 posted on 02/10/2019 10:21:57 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
DemocRATS are BIG TAXERS. They plan to drive away the rich and their businesses with a minimum of a 70% tax rate.

When it FAILS TO GENERATE THE REVENUE the DemocRATS have already spent in advance, THEY WILL COME AFTER YOU!!

13 posted on 02/11/2019 12:08:29 AM PST by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum


Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five percent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet
Taxman
Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Don't ask me what I want it for
(taxman mr. Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more
(Taxman mr. Heath)
Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me
Taxman.


14 posted on 02/11/2019 1:02:39 AM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: John Leland 1789

“A way to include church properties in taxation.”

Please relocate to Florida. Texas is full....


15 posted on 02/11/2019 3:32:31 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Blame the people of NJ for their long-term political failures.


16 posted on 02/11/2019 3:49:51 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BexarMet on steroids.


17 posted on 02/11/2019 5:50:16 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Millennials are Morons)
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To: snoringbear

Against it all here. Just sayin’ the government control planners are looking for every way to tax everything and everybody, including the churches.


18 posted on 02/11/2019 8:03:48 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
“Against it all here. Just sayin’ the government control planners are looking for every way to tax everything and everybody, including the churches. “ If you live in NJ, guess what your government is planning to tax next? Rain water run-off, 🥴...
19 posted on 02/11/2019 6:08:59 PM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

Well, THAT was my point. Churches have parking lots, and although they don’t pay property taxes, that rain tax will be one way to force them to pay a tax.


20 posted on 02/11/2019 7:16:10 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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