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Vanessa Tyson could spell doom for Virginia Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax
Washington Examiner ^ | February 07, 2019 12:00 AM | Steven Nelson |

Posted on 02/06/2019 10:20:50 PM PST by conservative98

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To: maggief

I think that’s all phoney to make him look like a victim and turnout the minority vote.


61 posted on 02/07/2019 4:08:37 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: thoughtomator
1) claims are ancient

Ford's claim is over 30 years old. Tyson's claim is half that, at 15 years old.

2) told no one about it at the time

Ford claims she told her best friend, who denies it. Tyson claims she told a DNC official, who buried it.

4) claims timed for political impact

Tyson told the Washington Post during the 2017 election, but they sat on the story. While that might have had a political impact in the Virginia LG race, it is nothing compared to the impact today post-Kavanaugh.

-PJ

62 posted on 02/07/2019 4:09:46 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I work in a bakery, all females. I am literally the only male employee. One head turn like that would be my last day there. I notice nothing. A simple dscipline.

It is amusing, the girls who want to be noticed sometimes act... peculiar.


63 posted on 02/07/2019 4:11:29 AM PST by mmercier0921 (the know it all grin)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Read the charges.


64 posted on 02/07/2019 4:15:11 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: thoughtomator

I agree regarding the significance of #4, but am seeing in the news that Tyson brought it up a year ago with someone in the VA government (though I don’t know the details).

They didn’t just know each other - understand, they both admitted a sexual encounter occurred - and both concede it started consensually (so #3 in particular is irrelevant). Do you see any connection whatsoever to Kavanaugh in this, considering these points? I’m referring solely to Tyson’s allegation.


65 posted on 02/07/2019 4:16:08 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

She brought it up when the Kavanaugh affair was all over the press, and not before, the timing of which is perfect for a false accusation and terrible for a real one.


66 posted on 02/07/2019 4:21:53 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Political Junkie Too

re: 1) 15 vs. 30 years on a hearsay claim... both are ancient. The difference is immaterial.

re: 2) Told a friend who denies it vs. told an unspecified DNC official - a person who by the job description alone cannot be trusted - if there’s a difference here, it’s that the second accusation learned from the first not to name a specific witness, so that the witness couldn’t deny the accusation.

re: 4) both timings are for political impact: 2017 election, and today’s Northam fiasco. And silent in between, and beforehand? Perfect match both times for the false-claim red flag, reinforced heavily by two such timings.

Victims of sexual assault must understand this: if there is no physical evidence, and they wait many years to tell anyone, and there’s no way for any objective third party to distinguish an accusation from post-facto regret of voluntary, consensual behavior... they should be treated as a criminal, and the accusations assumed to be false, defamatory, retaliatory and extortionate.


67 posted on 02/07/2019 4:31:38 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Dilbert, she has hired Blasey Fords attorneys it is said.
That action doesn’t come about cause she intends to play nice.
On a side note, being from San Diego, how much are you affected by the illegals entering in your area?
Thanks


68 posted on 02/07/2019 4:33:39 AM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: thoughtomator
if there’s a difference here, it’s that the second accusation learned from the first not to name a specific witness, so that the witness couldn’t deny the accusation.

Tyson's telling the Washington Post predates the Kavanagh accusations, so there was no claim yet by Ford to mirror.

The Washington Post sat on the Tyson story since November 2017. Ford didn’t call the Washington Post until September 2018, so Ford couldn't know of Tyson's claim.

Oh, and Tyson's is not a "hearsay claim" because Fairfax himself admits they went to his room and kissed. They differ on the claim of forced oral sex. With Ford, there was never any proof that Ford and Kavanaugh were ever in the same room together.

-PJ

69 posted on 02/07/2019 4:44:11 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

> They differ on the claim of forced oral sex.

That’s a hearsay claim. There is literally nothing other than her word that points to the accusation being true; and more than that, there CAN BE nothing other than her word to so point, based on the story. In other words: he cannot exonerate himself, no matter how innocent.

This is extortion and blackmail, full stop.

This kind of thing needs to be put down with a flamethrower, with long long jail terms for people who make evidence-less, unfalsifiable and reputation-destroying accusations. Allowing this kind of thing puts incredible power in the hands of people with no moral or ethical bar to asserting life-changing falsehoods, and ONLY to those people.


70 posted on 02/07/2019 4:50:42 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Widget Jr

Both accusers are liberal California academic women.


71 posted on 02/07/2019 4:52:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: conservative98

Would the Democrats be going after him if he wasn’t black?

Answer: Of course not.


72 posted on 02/07/2019 4:58:11 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: SteveH

SEXIST HATER!!!
(G’RRRL POWER is usually a mix of White Knighting, female privilege, and “let’s you and him fight”.
Remember Kavanaugh? This is why you don’t “believe all women.”
Besides, women lie, even about the same incident, even over time, depending on social advantages and consequences, and their audience.


73 posted on 02/07/2019 4:58:58 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: canuck_conservative

What humiliating scrutiny? I haven’t seen Serpenthead on national TV talking about trailer parks.


74 posted on 02/07/2019 5:02:03 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FrdmLvr

This many years later, it’s hearsay.


75 posted on 02/07/2019 5:04:19 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Only? So, presumption of innocence gets thrown out the window for cultural Marxism?


76 posted on 02/07/2019 5:07:26 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Newtoidaho

That’s “Kat” to you!


77 posted on 02/07/2019 5:08:59 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: thoughtomator
That’s a hearsay claim. There is literally nothing other than her word that points to the accusation being true

Sure, but it's nowhere near the claim of Ford that she was thrown on a bed in a house she can't identify on a date she can't identify by persons she can't identify, went home in a way she can't identify, and told people who deny being there and deny being told.

With Tyson it is not hearsay that they were in the room together, so her credibility starts there, not ends there. Fairfax's reported obscenities when discussing this don't help his credibility, either.

And, how is Tyson's claim "ancient" when it's still within the statute of limitations in Boston where it allegedly happened?

-PJ

78 posted on 02/07/2019 5:10:50 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: grey_whiskers

So you are taking ‘the bitch set me up’ angle then?


79 posted on 02/07/2019 5:14:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: thoughtomator

Two words.
Duke Lacrosse.
Women *lie*. Particularly about sex. And there are many cases out there where women lied through their teeth about “rape” to get out of trouble.


80 posted on 02/07/2019 5:14:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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