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Interesting Images Show U.S. Marine Corps F-35B Launching From USS Wasp In “Beast Mode”
The Aviationist ^ | February 4, 2019 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 02/05/2019 5:10:40 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 02/05/2019 5:10:40 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Why would a 5th gen aircraft that is stealth have external armament? Or is that what “Beast Mode” is?


2 posted on 02/05/2019 5:16:40 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Millennials are Morons)
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“Durability testing data indicates service-life of initial F-35B short-takeoff-vertical landing jets bought by Marine Corps “is well under” expected service life of 8,000 fleet hours; “may be as low as 2,100″ hours.” They buried that little nugget. Wow, that is criminally bad.
3 posted on 02/05/2019 5:16:55 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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Not if you own stock in Lockheed-Martin.


4 posted on 02/05/2019 5:30:50 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: sukhoi-30mki

8,000 fleet hours seems low to me. Are we really building aircraft with a lifespan of 7 years?


5 posted on 02/05/2019 5:32:28 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The article states that this is more they would use AFTER stealth is no longer an issue. I guess on day 3 of a war they will probably know we are coming.


6 posted on 02/05/2019 5:34:07 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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And how many cruise missiles and drones could be had for the price of one F-35?


7 posted on 02/05/2019 5:39:11 AM PST by CondorFlight
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How many schools? Eisenhower made a great speech about the cost of schools compared to the price of a single B52.


8 posted on 02/05/2019 5:41:28 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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8000 hours was the projected life. Testing is showing in fact the service life may be around 2000h! For comparison, the F15 has a service life of 20,000 hours. Roughly 10 times the F35. Wow. That’s a bombshell report.


9 posted on 02/05/2019 5:46:30 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

America spends on schools more thab any other nation for absolute sht results. Money for schools is not the issue. NYC is at $ 22,000 per students...


10 posted on 02/05/2019 5:47:58 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Beast Mode is when they’re all dirtied up with ungainly, heavy stuff (which would negate stealth) mounted on the external pylons.


11 posted on 02/05/2019 5:50:46 AM PST by gaijin
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“They buried that little nugget. Wow, that is criminally bad.”

PilotDave, I caught that, too. Interesting statement in a sentence edited oddly by Bloomberg. Would love to see that information in context. I wonder if the service life applies only to the first batch? Is it degraded by short-take off and landing operations? Does “Beast Mode” affect it? Is it airframe fatigue? Systems problems? Jet blast problems from operations?

Importantly, can short service life scenarios be rectified and service life extended as in almost every other airframe in our military’s inventory?


12 posted on 02/05/2019 5:50:55 AM PST by oldplayer
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Are these VTOL craft gonna burn a hole in the landing zone of the flight deck like the Russian YAK-38? Hovering over the deck is just as stressful on the equipment as flying at Mach.


13 posted on 02/05/2019 5:54:28 AM PST by Delta 21
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Why would a 5th gen aircraft that is stealth have external armament? Or is that what “Beast Mode” is?

The F-35, in all three of its guises, was designed to have "first day of war" stealth attack capabilities, followed by unstealthy "bomb truck" capabilities further into the campaign.

The F-35 was designed to either carry a small internal stealthy payload, or large, unstealthy external payload.

This is demonstrating the external payload capabilities of the F-35B.

14 posted on 02/05/2019 6:00:59 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Oh for Chist’s Sake, it was an analogy. The MIC is sucking every dollar out of our economy. I am no leftest, but these days I would rather see us wean off of $35 billion dollar airplanes, and pay down some of our debt.

All this whiz bang shit hadn’t won us much in the last 18 years.


15 posted on 02/05/2019 6:07:00 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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I guess on day 3 of a war they will probably know we are coming.

Or by then we can expect their anti-air capabilities will be so degraded due to destroyed sensors (RADAR), expended assets (missiles), and degraded airborne warning, that it will not matter.

16 posted on 02/05/2019 6:10:17 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

..we had M-188 750lb LGB's back in 1969...

17 posted on 02/05/2019 6:14:40 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Beast Mode? The F-35 will never be a beast. It is a least visible, early entry, stealth weapon.

The B-52 and the B-1B and the B-2 are Beast aircraft.

And as far as ground troops are concerned the lowly AC-130H is a Beast. And to the troops on the ground cheer the A-10 Warthog when they arrive.

Beast? Heavy metal attack.


18 posted on 02/05/2019 6:22:44 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Third day of war configuration means air-to-air and Surface-to-air nonvisual weaponrybof the enemy is substantially downgraded or eliminated.


19 posted on 02/05/2019 6:35:05 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Why would a 5th gen aircraft that is stealth have external armament? Or is that what “Beast Mode” is?


This configuration involving external loads is also referred to as a “Third Day of War” configuration as opposed to a “First Day of War” one in which the F-35 would carry weapons internally to maintain low radar cross-section and observability from sensors.

Sometimes articles do contain information.


20 posted on 02/05/2019 6:46:13 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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