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Trump vs. the Spy Chiefs: Who's Right?
Townhall ^ | 02/01/2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/01/2019 9:30:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/01/2019 9:30:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I trust the CIA as much as I trust the FBI.

None.


2 posted on 02/01/2019 9:32:13 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind
The glitch in the Iran Treaty....After 10 years....Iran can do anything they want as far as nukes and weapons go.

In the meantime....anyone who thinks they're not forging ahead on their capabilities is a fool.

Don't be surprised if they're "buying" from NK.

3 posted on 02/01/2019 9:34:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

President Trump is correct.

Next question.


4 posted on 02/01/2019 9:35:32 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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RE: Next question.

Why is he correct and the Spy Chiefs Wrong?


5 posted on 02/01/2019 9:36:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who’s in charge and who’s the employees? Trump needs to fire them if they want to cross him, our elected president.


6 posted on 02/01/2019 9:38:01 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: SeekAndFind

FBI = CIA = State = DoJ = IRS = Deep State

I cannot come up with anything these folks could possibly say that I would take at face value and believe is true.


7 posted on 02/01/2019 9:38:48 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Sacajaweau

Despite the palace intrigue, I suspect the whole “Iran is not a Nuclear Threat” meme stems from the effect that butt-hurt Barry’s leftovers in the IC have from Trump nuking the Iran treaty + anti-Israel NeoCons! They all need to go work for Newsweek!


8 posted on 02/01/2019 9:39:28 AM PST by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The evaluation of “threats” is based on conclusions drawn from available facts and personal opinions. Differences in conclusions are most often based on different opinions. President Trump’s opinions are just as valid as anyone elses.


9 posted on 02/01/2019 9:39:55 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: SeekAndFind

So uh, what do the “spy chiefs” think about the continuing invasion from Mexico and now Central America?

They’ve known about this in detail for 40 years. They have massive assets to tell them who and what is coming across our border for at least that long. The notion that truckloads of people and drugs could escape their detection is absurd. The risk that it could also be weapons or nukes is too great to avert their view.

So that means this jerks have tolerated the invasion. They think it’s normal stuff. No problem, Mexico can have the Southwest — long as we gots our Big Jobs in DC, that’s all that matters!

Lemme know when these guys pay attention to something that has dramatically changed my life for the worse: the Third World takeover of the Southwest, leading to illegitimate Leftist governments in all the Southwestern states.

Invasion and takeover is a lot more important then whether Sunni or Shiite Muslims control some run down town in Eastern Syria.


10 posted on 02/01/2019 9:41:30 AM PST by Regulator
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On foreign policy, we are divided not only on means but end

Really. We are divided on means? Of course the peons can haul a few more blocks up the tramp so I can have a bigger pyramid.

We are done broke. Our military is tapped out, stretched thin, and the patience of the American people has snapped. Trump gets it and was elected.

And then let's talk about ends. Other than flying pigs and rainbow excreting unicorns, what end do these "chiefs" think we are aiming for? What? Staying in the long struggle because we enjoy the long struggle? That's a fools errand. The Athenian Naval Empire over the Aegean was brought crashing down around their ears over strategic over-reach. They just had to go and wage a campaign in Syracuse. It was their manifest destiny. Their Navy was destroyed and their empire collapsed.

11 posted on 02/01/2019 9:41:53 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as President Tump follows the old maxim Trust but verify he’ll be alright.

It seems these directors fail to realize they work for the President and the People.


12 posted on 02/01/2019 9:42:55 AM PST by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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RE: It seems these directors fail to realize they work for the President and the People.

This is NOT the issue the article is trying to address.

The issue is this -— WHOSE ESTIMATION MOST CONFORM TO REALITY?


13 posted on 02/01/2019 9:43:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The spy chiefs are the very worst elements of the Swamp. Not merely domestic, but international reactionary agents, they have been feeding information to the Chief Executives for years that has negatively impacted the US influence in the world, by failing to adequately report growing threats, and by wrongly supporting those movements that have been much more conducive to world disorder.


14 posted on 02/01/2019 9:46:39 AM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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To: gr8eman
butt-hurt Barry’s leftovers

It's a lot worse than that. We in DC love our JCPOA. We put our best process forward, engaged and we got it. You can't call it a worthless piece of paper. The whole deepstate empire put it's life and soul into that deal. You can't demand a better deal. There is no better deal. We followed our diplomatic process to the letter and got the best deal that the deep state can get.

You certainly can't have deals renogotiated by an insane amateur like Trump who is innocent of all of the nuance of diplomatic protocol that deep-staters have spent their lives mastering.

15 posted on 02/01/2019 9:46:46 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind

War is a very profitable business. There are those who would do anything and everything it takes to initiate or maintain a state of War. Their very livelihood depends on it.


16 posted on 02/01/2019 9:48:12 AM PST by Openurmind
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1) Who works for whom?
2) would ANY of this still be an issue if at some time in the last 250 years, someone had destroyed medina, then told the rest of the moslem world “fix your 5h17 or mecca goes too?”

Play nice or ya don’t get to play.

Hard to trust an intel organization that was in the tank for the hildabeast....

KYPD


17 posted on 02/01/2019 9:52:10 AM PST by petro45acp (All those disopian movies? applefacebookgoogletwitteryahooutoob....you are the bad guys!)
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To: SeekAndFind

given the CIC is correct, and that he is
regularly attacked and backstabbed
by some of these usual suspects,
one wonders to whom the usual suspects actually report.


18 posted on 02/01/2019 9:52:55 AM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Russia
Russia
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19 posted on 02/01/2019 9:53:05 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

It isn’t a question of who is right and who is wrong. It’s who is President and who is not. Trump makes the decisions, and if he wants to go against the recommendations of the Pentagon and the Intelligence community then it’s his prerogative to do so.


20 posted on 02/01/2019 9:56:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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