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Johns Hopkins Pushes for Armed Police on Campus
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 1, 2019 | Scott Calvert

Posted on 02/01/2019 7:09:49 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: Dilbert San Diego
Sadly, a number of major big city universities are located in bad neighborhoods.
Our local university built a bridge over a river to physically and symbolically "reach out" to the "unfortunates."
Within weeks it became a no man's land. Morons.
21 posted on 02/01/2019 7:33:24 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Moonman62
In Baltimore the police aren’t allowed to deter criminals.

In Tampa, FL sheriff deputies aren't allowed to deter criminals.

You can't even find one unless it's 3pm and you're in front of a high school.

The residents in your community who have mugshots outnumber those who don't.

Your vehicle gets vandalized in your own driveway and when you go to the sheriff substation to report it, a deputy behind a two inch thick glass partition treats you like you are the criminal.

And you get door knocks in the afternoon from slugs who admit to you they have criminal records and can't get jobs so they are asking for a contribution. Great entree to a home invasion.

Key takeaway--if you're not already here, don't come.

22 posted on 02/01/2019 7:39:28 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: reaganaut1
I once chatted briefly with a Harvard University Police Officer and asked him what authorities he had.He said that,on Harvard University property,he had about the same authorities that the Boston Police Department had (this was at Harvard Medical School,which is in Boston rather than Cambridge).I didn't notice if he was armed or not.

Also,most folks won't know that among the several people who died in the Boston Marathon bombing was an MIT Police Officer who tried to apprehend them as they passed by MIT property.

23 posted on 02/01/2019 7:39:57 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: oh8eleven

when you hear statements like that from universities you kind of wonder “reaching out to the minority community/underserved/whatever”. What does that actually mean? Is there’s this great unmet need for French Literature, Particle Physics, etc. expertise in the unban minority community. We just reach out (build a bridge) and I guess magic will happen and everything will be wonderful!

Of course if you challenge the wisdom of that you are immediately labeled a racist!


24 posted on 02/01/2019 7:45:57 AM PST by Reily
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To: Starboard

A cop once explained it to me, they quickly become “Tourists in Blue”.

If the choice is between proactive law enforcement (and getting thrown under the bus by local “leaders” and higher ups in the department) I’m just going to park behind the old K-Mart and take a nap till my shift is over. Or maybe tag some little old lady for going 39 in a 35. The effect is also to tend to prevent anyone in the future from wanting to choose a career in law enforcement. Why put up with that nonsense?

So what’s happened, if I’m reverse-engineering the article correctly, the sworn law enforcement that everybody pays for has been enjoined from enforcing the laws and preventing violent crime and is no longer reliable for whatever reason.

Consequently the research university wants (and needs) to hire their own police, their own security, on their own dime, to patrol the campus and keep students, faculty, visitors, staffing and patients with at least the illusion of being safe. It’s analogous in some ways to public schools. In some areas they are so rotten private schools are the only way to go. But they still stick you with the school shakedown money regardless, on your property tax. So you gotta pay at least twice. And prospective students and faculty will weigh different schools against each other. Pros and cons. If it turns out Johns Hopkins is in a shithole, they may well decide it’s not worth the risk. Who can blame them?

It’s pathetic that the two big line items on property tax are Schools and Police, and they are both functionally broken in many areas. It would be one thing if the schools were churning out high quality individuals, one wouldn’t feel so bad about tax rates. It would be another if crime rates, even or eapecially “petty” crimes were low. Property crimes are not addressed, because they are prohibited from effective enforcement. The students start getting assaulted and robbed, well people start fo scrutinize things a little closer.


25 posted on 02/01/2019 7:46:10 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: eyeamok

It is the same as in the 1970s, when they demanded that aircraft hijackings be stopped, BUT WITHOUT GUNS! Marshals on board is OK, but No Guns! Stop the hijacking but without Guns!


26 posted on 02/01/2019 7:50:33 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Reily
We just reach out (build a bridge) and I guess magic will happen and everything will be wonderful!
And when it doesn't work out, then they start having seminars to "see if we can patch up our differences."
Then some not-for-profit shows up asking for tax dollars to "help the healing."
And then, and then and then and ...
27 posted on 02/01/2019 7:55:20 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Moonman62

If the regular police aren’t deterring criminals,...
In Baltimore the police aren’t allowed to deter criminals.
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Unarmed campus “police” around the country are allowed to reach into a leather belt compartment and pull out a pamphlet on feeling better about oneself if one gives up a life of crime, and to have an earnest discussion about the violent criminal’s feeling about his early family life, and then to apologize for any triggering or PTSD caused by a uniformed officer detaining him like that.

The officers’ last words may be “Forgive me, sir. I am truly sorry.”

If a student in a MAGA hat happens to witness an officer being shot at, the officer can hide behind the student’s legs in a crouching position as the MAGA guy fights the violent criminal.


28 posted on 02/01/2019 7:55:37 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,noncitizens & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: reaganaut1

Thought the mayor said you gotta give’em room to protest....that’d probably include crime as well.


29 posted on 02/01/2019 7:56:51 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Freedom4US

More police means they will be able respond quickly...that is right AFTER the mugging, stabbing or robbery has already taken place. The increased police presence does little to deter crime because the criminals know the politicians pander to their constituients and are soft on crime. In Baltimore the political climate allows thugs free reign.


30 posted on 02/01/2019 7:57:09 AM PST by Starboard
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To: oh8eleven

You know the drill!


31 posted on 02/01/2019 7:58:35 AM PST by Reily
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To: Freee-dame

They are talking about the U, not the hospital, although most places in Baltimore proper are a bit suspect these days.


32 posted on 02/01/2019 8:13:52 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: reaganaut1

I worked as an election judge last October November at a poling center in the burbs of a large city. The public library we were at hired security guards but did not allow them to carry. The temp company I worked through said we coup not carry. I have my ccw and carried every day I worked.


33 posted on 02/01/2019 8:29:54 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Johns Hopkins Hispital is close to some of Baltimore’s most dangerous neighborhoods. If you go there, you will see security ( Baltimore City Police or private security or both ... I am not sure) on practically every block around the hospital and it’s parking garages. You are pretty safe within that perimeter.

You do not see this protection near the University campus. It is located near some nice neighborhoods (some with private security driving around them 24/7)and some not-so-nice neighborhoods. Somehow the criminals find a way to get near the campus. I just do not think that many of the people who would be primarily impacted by armed campus police supplementing the Baltimore police are against it.

It’s a political thing. The Mayor of Baltimore thinks that “squeegee kids “ who approach motorists with their dirty sudsy water and squeegees are “entrepreneurs.” Instead of defending motorists who do not like being intimidated by these “kids” the mayor is paying people to stand on nearby corners to ensure that the squeegee kids do not get out of hand when motorists decline their “services.” What can be expected from such a mayor?

34 posted on 02/01/2019 9:13:37 AM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: Freee-dame

Yes, I know all that. That was my point...the focus has been on the U which was basically upper scale area.


35 posted on 02/01/2019 9:17:28 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Parents send their kids off to college and aren’t even aware of the crime on those campuses. Schools in Boston, Baltimore, New Haven, Philadelphia,just to go down the eastern coast - all schools in urban areas have a crime problem. Schools hide that information.


36 posted on 02/01/2019 9:22:21 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Freee-dame

I know someone who had planned to interview for a residency at Hopkins. When he drove there and saw the neighborhood near the hospital he made a U turn and got back on the highway. No way was he going to subject himself and his family to that danger.


37 posted on 02/01/2019 9:27:42 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: reaganaut1

JHU is surrounded by one of the scariest neighborhoods Ive ever seen. It’s so dangerous they have the gurads on the corners looking at each other in case a man needs help.


38 posted on 02/01/2019 12:11:09 PM PST by stellaluna
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To: reaganaut1; 100American; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ..

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


39 posted on 02/03/2019 1:06:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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