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The ‘Ethics’ of Trump’s Border Wall - A wall would cause harm to immigrants and refugees
NY Times ^ | 01.30.19 | Cardinal Joseph W. Tobin

Posted on 01/30/2019 7:13:35 PM PST by Coleus

The ‘Ethics’ of Trump’s Border Wall

A wall would cause harm to immigrants and refugees, all of whom are equal to us in the eyes of God.

Is the border wall ethical? President Trump has suggested the wall is moral and those who oppose it immoral. His critics claim the opposite.

To answer this, we have to consider its effect on humans. What harm could a border wall cause to immigrants and refugees, all of whom are equal to us in the eyes of God?

Some people who cross the border are in desperate search of work to support their families. A wall would probably drive them into more remote areas of the desert or mountains, possibly to their deaths, as the forces driving them — violence, persecution and extreme poverty — are more life threatening than a risky border crossing. In fact, close to 8,000 migrants have died in Arizona and parts of Texas since the construction of the San Diego and El Paso sectors of the wall in the mid-1990s.

The latest arrivals at our border are primarily asylum seekers from the Northern Triangle of Central America, who, when they cross the border and ask for protection, are in compliance with both our domestic and our international laws — the Refugee Act of 1980 and the 1951 United Nations Refugee Convention and its 1967 protocols.

A wall would prevent asylum seekers from asking for protection at any point along our border — their right under the law — and would leave many of them at the mercy of drug cartels and other criminal groups in northern Mexico. More humane ways to achieve border security can be found to avoid these harmful consequences, through technology, additional legal avenues for entry and policies that address the factors pushing migration.

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1 posted on 01/30/2019 7:13:35 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Hey “Cardinal”,

Don’t you have some child molesting priests to cover up for or some NY politicians to excommunicate for promoting infanticide?

So, with all due respect, GFY.

L


2 posted on 01/30/2019 7:15:41 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance)
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To: Coleus

There goes the left again. Illegals are more important then the seniors and children of our Country.


3 posted on 01/30/2019 7:15:53 PM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Coleus

This $#!+ is getting old.


4 posted on 01/30/2019 7:16:26 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: Coleus

Is there a lock on the Rectory Door? I’ll bet there is.


5 posted on 01/30/2019 7:16:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Coleus

A wall would cause harm to immigrants and refugees, all of whom are equal to us in the eyes of God.
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Immigrants and refugees come through ports of entry and legal channels.

Illegal aliens sneak across the border where there are no barriers.


6 posted on 01/30/2019 7:16:48 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: Coleus

Hey Cardinal, how tall is the wall outside your house?


7 posted on 01/30/2019 7:17:15 PM PST by max americana (Happily Fired every stupid liberal at every election since 08' at work. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Coleus

You’re right cardinal. Lets start by taking down the walls around the Vatican


8 posted on 01/30/2019 7:17:51 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: Lurker

Is the church going to pay all of their expenses? or is the church going to leave it to the government we the people pay for it? Think I know the answer.


9 posted on 01/30/2019 7:18:06 PM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Coleus

The cardinal is being partisan or being an idiot. What about the walls that already exist on the border and force the invaders into remote areas?


10 posted on 01/30/2019 7:18:13 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Coleus

Yes, we want to make people turn around and walk in the opposite direction.

Your allies want to slaughter infants and sell their body parts.

Call God and let’s talk it over yea?


11 posted on 01/30/2019 7:18:35 PM PST by The Toll
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Everyone in the world is harmed by the border wall and the migration laws of the U.S.

All of them are victims of our laws. They are all harmed by the wall, simply because, they were unlucky enough to have been borne on the wrong side. Otherwise, they all belong on this side, just like those that got lucky to be borne of the American side.


12 posted on 01/30/2019 7:19:27 PM PST by adorno
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To: Coleus
A wall would cause harm to immigrants and refugees

So what?

13 posted on 01/30/2019 7:19:29 PM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: Coleus

Another fudge-packing butt pirate weighs in...


14 posted on 01/30/2019 7:19:37 PM PST by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: Coleus

Cardinal “Nighty-night, baby” Tobin has written a long appeal for more government funding for “good works” (payoffs to abuse victims). No surprise he didn’t even mention the central moral issue in his own neck of the woods. Can’t have those Catholic politicos mad at him, I suppose.


15 posted on 01/30/2019 7:19:42 PM PST by madprof98
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What harm could *the lack of a border wall* cause to immigrants and refugees,

Plenty, but profit to cartels.


16 posted on 01/30/2019 7:19:49 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Coleus

…and a wall might keep out hunky Italian actors, eh Cardinal.
Night night baby.


17 posted on 01/30/2019 7:20:13 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Coleus

Mr Cardinal...….

FYI … The Wall is for the benefit of the People of the USA!

YOU step up and take all these Free-Loaders to the POPE, - let’s see what happens next?

If you’re so worried about their welfare?, Go to their country and tell them all “How to Do IT!”


18 posted on 01/30/2019 7:20:26 PM PST by EnglishOnly (eWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Coleus

NYT.
Izzat the paper that lied about the starvation, the Potempkin villages, and virtually everything else about Soviet Russia?

Morals? Ptui.

Journalists.


19 posted on 01/30/2019 7:20:27 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Coleus

Hey, Cardinal, you worried the flow of little boys into your favored play places is going to get interrupted?

You know no one is going to take your protests seriously until you douse yourself in gasoline and light yourself on fire, right?


20 posted on 01/30/2019 7:20:38 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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