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2018 was the fourth warmest year on record -- and more evidence of a ‘new normal,’
Washington Post ^ | January 24 2019 | Chris Mooney

Posted on 01/30/2019 11:55:21 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: JME_FAN; DuncanWaring

You state the basic facts of the approaching grand solar minimum very well, my friend.

Although the vast majority of people are blissfully unaware of it now, it will soon become the biggest event of our lifetimes.

Literally everything we’re focused on today, will take a back seat to this issue by 2024.


41 posted on 01/30/2019 1:11:47 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: JME_FAN

You have touched on a pet peeve of mine. This such and such number on record is really meaningless. A somewhat accurate thermometer was not invented till 1714. I wonder when it’s use became widespread beyond just Europe,the East coast of North America and a handful of other places around the world. A few sailing ships would have carried them but the size of the oceans make that record suspect. I think you have to at least get to WW2 before you would have had something close to enough coverage for measurements to be truly global. Even then we don’t really have good worldwide records until satellites in space in the 1960’s. We really have just barely over 50 years of good enough temperature records globally to be accurate or truly useful. That is way to short for any kind of global climate trend or measurement.


42 posted on 01/30/2019 1:12:00 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: rlmorel

Well it’s -60* in Chicago and its 70* in Ft. Lauderdale that’s a difference of 130* and if that doesn’t prove globull warming I don’t know what more proof do you need.
Senior’ sarc


43 posted on 01/30/2019 1:12:36 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: yesthatjallen
The year 2018 is *likely* to have been the fourth warmest year on record,

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Why that word? Because the calculation is a statistical exercise, and the margins are so narrow.

The warmest year on record for the Earth’s land and oceans was 2016 -- by a long shot,

The week after this was released, the other shoe dropped by the climate scientists who made the announcement - that the percentage chance of this being true was on the order of 37%.

44 posted on 01/30/2019 1:13:58 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: yesthatjallen
"If the hypothesis of man-made global warming is true, every year with increasing CO2 should mean each year should be warmer."

CO2 is still only 345 ten-thousandths of one percent of the atmosphere. That is .0345 of 1%.

The rest of the air we breathe is 78% Nitrogen. 21% Oxygen and 1% of the rest of the gases. Of which CO2 is the percentage shown above.

45 posted on 01/30/2019 1:15:14 PM PST by Parmy
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To: Secret Agent Man
I call bs. I want to know whre evey recoding device is and how often they are calibrated and by whom.

It's gotten even worse now. In order to maintain the fiction of man-made global warming, the warmists have had to resort to statistical 'smoothing' to create the illusion of rising temperatures.

In other words, they're straight up cooking the books because the real temperature data supports the exact opposite conclusion.

46 posted on 01/30/2019 1:19:53 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Keyhopper

This stuff just makes me shake my head and smile grimly.

It is so stupid that your tongue in cheek comment is nearly indistinguishable from reality as they see it.


47 posted on 01/30/2019 1:24:57 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: nomorelurker

Moreover, a recent study of the depths of the Pacific Ocean has revealed that while the surface temperatures are warm, the depths are still cooling as a result of the last atmospheric cooling that occurred during The Little Ice Age. This is due to the lagging effect that atmospheric temperature has on the Earth’s oceans. Any real atmospheric “warming” will not have a substantial impact on the greater bulk of our oceans until some point millennium distant into Earth’s future.

More pointedly, before that event ever occurs, we are set to enter another Grand Solar Minimum, where the Sun’s radiation output will substantially diminish to an extent that will bring Earth into a much colder climate, similar to the Maunder Minimum. This event is most likely timed to begin in earnest about the year 2030. At that time, we will wish to God there were such a thing as Anthropogenic “warming” - because millions of people, being unprepared, will perish for lack of food when massive crop failures become the norm across the entirety of Earth’s present temperate latitudes.


48 posted on 01/30/2019 1:25:06 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: yesthatjallen

How does one measure the temperature of the earth? Of a year? Stop and consider.

Do this exercise, where you merely seek to measure the temperature of a SINGLE SPOT in your house at a single instant in time:

1. Get two mercury thermometers, two digital thermometers, and two curled metal ring thermometers.

2. Hang them together in a SINGLE LOCATION inside your house, next to your thermostat with its own temperature reading.

3. Wait a day to allow the devices to settle.

4. Read the temperature of all seven devices. Be as careful as possible, and read to a precision of a single decimal place.

5. Observe that your thermometers do not (I suspect) agree to a precision of a single decimal digit, and likely not even to the single degree digit.

6. Ask yourself: how does science measure the “temperature of the earth” and do so over spans of year-to-year and over decades. Ask yourself how many instruments, types of instruments, locations of measurement, degradation of the single instruments, times of day, that are involved in measuring the temperature “of the earth” over decades in order to get changes claimed in the single decimal place values.


49 posted on 01/30/2019 1:28:35 PM PST by mbarker12474
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To: rlmorel

They’re just waiting for the summer of 2019 so it can be the 3rd hottest ever


50 posted on 01/30/2019 1:39:20 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Windflier

Between the “Global Warming/Climate Change” fraud and the “Eat high-carb/low-fat” scam, I’m becoming more and more convinced that our masters literally want 90% of us dead; the rest serving as serfs on their estates.


51 posted on 01/30/2019 1:50:38 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Tell ya what, if you can find the data, which is tough, see where the temperatures were monitored in 2018 and compare that to ten years earlier. If you influence the collection of data, you influence the outcome every time.


52 posted on 01/30/2019 2:11:46 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Windflier
It's gotten even worse now. In order to maintain the fiction of man-made global warming, the warmists have had to resort to statistical 'smoothing' to create the illusion of rising temperatures.

In other words, they're straight up cooking the books because the real temperature data supports the exact opposite conclusion.

Hence the statistical parsing in this article.

53 posted on 01/30/2019 2:15:31 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

I know you can measure the temperature in Philadelphia (the most recent record high our local weather girl mentioned for a few days ago was set back in 1916 - quite a trend) and in London and in Delhi and in Moscow - but exactly how and where do you measure the “global temperature” - without a lot of shaky assumptions and approximations......


54 posted on 01/30/2019 2:25:29 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Windflier

The evil DemSoc propagandists also say there is a crisis of child hunger while at the same there is an epidemic of childhood obesity.


55 posted on 01/30/2019 2:25:34 PM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: yesthatjallen

Seemed fairly normal here in AZ


56 posted on 01/30/2019 2:56:49 PM PST by Zathras
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To: yesthatjallen
How is 2018 not the hottest year on record?

Solar and volcanic activity can play a role.

57 posted on 01/30/2019 3:00:25 PM PST by x
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To: DannyTN

bflr


58 posted on 01/30/2019 6:28:19 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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