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Civil war warning: Immigration issue will tear America apart if we don’t split up peacefully now
The National Sentinel ^ | 1/21/19 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 01/21/2019 7:20:24 AM PST by SleeperCatcher

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To: central_va

I’m not an accountant, but I’m pretty sure that entitlements have the FedGov completely in the red.


121 posted on 01/21/2019 3:43:48 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: central_va
Yes, your response did make your stupidity painfully evident.

The globalist democrat and RINO thugs who have created our current illegal immigrant problem don't obey the law now and openly advocate ignoring existing laws but for some reason you want people to believe they'd obey the terms of any pact you can dream up.

122 posted on 01/21/2019 5:51:13 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

Fine you either think the USA can go on as is or you don’t. If not then you want a bloody riot - war chaos. I get you. You want violence and blood shed. No peaceful secession or other solution for you. I get it.


123 posted on 01/21/2019 6:05:33 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

There is a war on In This country between good and evil. The struggle is for the soul of the country. Somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. Splitting up into 4 separate smaller countries will only result in 4 struggles between good and evil.

By the way the EU is not a military powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination.


124 posted on 01/21/2019 10:59:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Swirl

You might want to check your economic facts about the “average” economic condition before American Revolution or CW1.

The fact that a middle class was developing during the American Revolution and didn’t want to payoff the King. The slavery issue and states rights were the reason for CW1. People and industries were having a hard time in the south.


125 posted on 01/21/2019 11:26:54 PM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: sergeantdave
They'll probably use portholes. 😉
126 posted on 01/22/2019 3:45:01 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Splitting up into 4 separate smaller countries will only result in 4 struggles between good and evil.

Why would four countries agreeing to split up then turn around and war on each other. That makes no sense.

127 posted on 01/22/2019 5:49:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Dick Vomer
True and well said. Revolutions and civil wars tend to bring fanatics to power who persecute those who aren't ideologically pure. Then after they've made a mess of things, the same kind of people who ran things before the revolution come back into power.

If this didn't quite happen in our Revolution and Civil War one reason is that class divisions weren't quite so bitter as they were in Europe or Asia. The other reason (which might seem to be contradictory, but isn't) is that those in charge were able to keep a lid on the country and make sure that things didn't get out of hand. The Revolution and the Civil War didn't quite become race wars or class wars or religious wars.

But now we aren't free of the kind of deep conflicts that divided the Old World any more and we may not be able to rely on or defer to wise leadership this time.

128 posted on 01/22/2019 6:06:03 AM PST by x
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To: Sarcasm Factory
A civil war, however bloody, is still better than the inevitable invasion of selected portions — think Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Guam — of the former United States by outside powers gloating over the self-destruction of a once proud nation.

The only way a foreign power would be able to occupy parts of the US is if we have a civil war.

129 posted on 01/22/2019 6:11:02 AM PST by x
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To: TomGuy
So, if the states do split, who is going to subsidize the Liberal states and their massive taxes? They would expect the Conservative states to continue doing that.

For the most part those liberal states pay more in federal taxes than the conservative ones.

The problem with splitting up the country is that it would so disrupt the economy that everybody would end up worse off.

And dismantling the US would invite other powers in to fill the vacuum. There would be new conflicts and more power plays in the world, and eventually here as foreign powers test their strength and expand their power.

130 posted on 01/22/2019 6:15:53 AM PST by x
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To: central_va

Name one section of this country that contains a like minded populace. That’s what you need in a separatist movement.


131 posted on 01/22/2019 6:26:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: x
If this didn't quite happen in our Revolution and Civil War one reason is that class divisions weren't quite so bitter as they were in Europe or Asia. The other reason (which might seem to be contradictory, but isn't) is that those in charge were able to keep a lid on the country and make sure that things didn't get out of hand. The Revolution and the Civil War didn't quite become race wars or class wars or religious wars.

I think there was huge class differences like in the North where someone would/could pay to get out of the draft if another took his place. It's all built on myth building/propaganda. Fighting for "freedom", "our country/state/region", "revenge", or any number or things.

Ask an ANTIFA clown what they want. they couldn't put a rational argument other than what they're against. Therefore they are just useful tools to a more focused goal by someone else. They are so stupid and blinded by ideology that they don't even see it. Same with African Americans voting for democrats. It's sad in a way.

As long as we have cable TV for sports, internet for porn and games/gambling and pot or other recreational drugs to provide "entertainment" for the masses.....well they're pretty easy to control, eh?

Who would be willing to give up 3 warm meals, all the pot you can smoke, all the sex you can fantasize/participate in, and games to occupy hours and hours of your day? Nobody is going to do squat and risk dying and killing someone when they can live like well kept hamsters.

It's the fact that we are given the ILLUSION of choice that must be maintained. Pelosi, Schumer, Bush, Clinton, McCains, Kennedys, Obamas, Trump, and on and on are laughing all the way to the bank knowing that their offspring will be in the ruling class.

Want to know something really funny? The "Wall" is just a distraction. They'll huff and puff and scream and shout. But guess what? It won't mean ANYTHING.

There will be amnesty for all the current illegals in this country as part of the compromise and the wall will be like the TSA..... a show for the proles to gnaw on and pretend it's doing something.

Want to end illegal immigration? Make a FEDERAL law that mandates ALL workers that file taxes be citizens or have proof of citizenship. The IRS can mandate that just like it did for Obamacare.

But the kicker is this... Make it a FEDERAL CRIME to hire or pay someone thereby falsifying a federal document and sending across state lines via electronic or postal service. The penalty would be 10X the wages+taxes for each offense and 1 year in federal lockup with minimum mandatory sentences FOR EACH falsified tax return. So if it's monthly....then you have 12 offenses for each employee in a year. If quarterly payroll then 4 per year. Each undocumented employee would cost the employer at least 4 years of prison and up to 12 years in prison for each employee. The corporations hiring illegals would hold the board of directors and CEOs criminally liable for falsify and running an organization the aids and abets the commission of a federal crime.

That's if we're SERIOUS about illegals. Nothing like seeing middle class families getting locked up for nannies and gardeners to shake things up, eh? Of course the ruling elites will never get those penalties because they're just so much more important and couldn't be bothered.

That would solve the problem without a wall and empty out half the kitchens, auto shops, landscaping, maids, and service industries in about an hour....hahahahahaha

132 posted on 01/22/2019 9:22:39 AM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: SleeperCatcher

There would have to be a peaceful and acceptable way for conservatives to exit the liberal states and vice versa.


133 posted on 01/22/2019 9:43:48 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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