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'At any cost': China warns US Navy over Taiwan
France24 ^ | 1/15/19

Posted on 01/15/2019 11:10:07 AM PST by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

Victory after a one-sided nukefest with China would be one way to win the so-called trade war.


21 posted on 01/15/2019 11:28:30 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: LibWhacker

Not worried but if I lived in a city I would be...The Chinese have been working on some neat gadgets called EMP weapons...Roll time back to he Stone age for many..


22 posted on 01/15/2019 11:30:00 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: LibWhacker

...not that it would come to trading nukes, really. Our military forces would shut down China’s military forces with conventional warfare pretty quick.


23 posted on 01/15/2019 11:30:29 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Jeff Head; LS; cva66snipe

Ping


24 posted on 01/15/2019 11:32:54 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (But Democrats)
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To: familyop

Depends on whether we still have the nerve or not to pull the trigger..I am not sure we do..


25 posted on 01/15/2019 11:33:07 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263

I sure liked Fred Thompson. If he hadn’t gotten sick I always figured he would have run for POTUS. He would have won and we wouldn’t have had to suffer through 8 nauseating years of that nauseating Great Disappointment.


26 posted on 01/15/2019 11:34:24 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: LibWhacker

Between my 3rd and 4th year at USNA I did a language study trip to Taiwan in coordination with their Naval Academy. There for a few weeks with 5 Mids.

“Happened” to drive by an amphibious assault drill as we were returning to Taipei. They had a lot of older WWII equipment mixed in with more modern stuff.

It was interesting how we handled relations with them. Basically our guys (ambassador, Naval attaché equivalents) resigned and signed on with an organization that acted as a embassy/consulate. Then when their tour was over they resumed their prior role but were given extra years of service for that time frame..or something like that.

Well... modern for the late 80s. Haven’t had the opportunity to get back that direction since. Sun Moon Lake is spectacular.


27 posted on 01/15/2019 11:36:46 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: LouAvul

Yep he might have made a good one...Just think if a Democrat wins the Presidency and the Chinese and Russians decide to settle things once and for all I could see a Democrat President surrendering..Especially if Cities were threatened.


28 posted on 01/15/2019 11:38:25 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: LibWhacker

And Red China was saying the same thing decades ago, before the moronic US foreign and trade policy decisions served to enrich and empower China in a way it could never have accomplished without US aid.

Those will prove to be the dumbest, most destructive policies in US history. And all our elites in government and Wall Street told us China would become freedom loving capitalists and democrats if we’d just be nice and allow them into the WTO and the family of nations.


29 posted on 01/15/2019 11:39:08 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: Pravious

Why does everybody assume endless escalation?

Is the world to be ruled by threat?


30 posted on 01/15/2019 11:40:21 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: LibWhacker

The U.S. Navy and Trump tariffs have the Chicoms barking up a storm.


31 posted on 01/15/2019 11:41:34 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: reed13k
Sun Moon Lake

Never heard of it. Gorgeous, though!

32 posted on 01/15/2019 11:44:48 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

You can thank Bill Clinton and Loral for the Chinese getting chesty. He and all of his comrade should be hanged.


33 posted on 01/15/2019 11:45:29 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: LibWhacker

Taiwan, keep them free.


34 posted on 01/15/2019 11:48:51 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: dpetty121263
"Not worried but if I lived in a city I would be...The Chinese have been working on some neat gadgets called EMP weapons...Roll time back to he Stone age for many.."

I don't blame readers for being misled by myths from recent popular fiction that was devised to mislead.


Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack Critical National Infrastructures

Commission Members

Dr. John S. Foster, Jr.
Mr. Earl
Dr. William R. Graham (Chairman)
Dr. Robert J. Hermann
Mr. Henry (Hank) M. Kluepfel
Gen Richard L. Lawson, USAF (Ret.)
Dr. Gordon K. Soper
Dr. Lowell L. Wood, Jr.
Dr. Joan B. Woodard

April 2008

Page 115

If no anomalous response was observed, the testing was continued up to the field intensity limits of the simulation capability (approximately 50 kV/m). Automobiles were subjected to EMP environments under both engine turned off and engine turned on conditions. No effects were subsequently observed in those automobiles that were not turned on during EMP exposure. The most serious effect observed on running automobiles was that the motors in three cars stopped at field strengths of approxi-mately 30 kV/m or above. In an actual EMP exposure, these vehicles would glide to a stop and require the driver to restart them.


35 posted on 01/15/2019 11:52:05 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: LibWhacker
"...if Taipei formally declares independence,..."

Um, I think they already did that in 1949.

36 posted on 01/15/2019 11:55:22 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: LibWhacker

Hmm...still has its Mk13 launcher. They were removed from U.S. OHP’s in the final years, making them glorified 76mm gunboats.


37 posted on 01/15/2019 11:57:37 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: dpetty121263
"Depends on whether we still have the nerve or not to pull the trigger..I am not sure we do.."

I've experienced training. What we did in drills became second nature. Nerve in that sense is irrelevant to what military personnel will do. They'll just do it and get a feel-good rush while doing it.

38 posted on 01/15/2019 11:58:40 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: dpetty121263

Many improvements have also been designed and installed in infrastructure (e.g., power grid) since attention was brought to the matter. Our main loss would be quite a few lefties under air bursts, if anything gets through defenses.


39 posted on 01/15/2019 12:05:55 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: LibWhacker

The time to pick a fight is when you are strong.

I know we are stronger than we have been, but are we THAT much stronger than China? I am thinking their hackers might be as good as our hackers.

This will start with Navies. It will end dark and cold.


40 posted on 01/15/2019 12:09:47 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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