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A Stalemate as Trump Goes Factual, Democrats Illogical
Townhall.com ^ | January 11, 2019 | Michael Barone

Posted on 01/11/2019 5:43:11 AM PST by Kaslin

The televised presidential address from the Oval Office, a staple of communication between the chief executive and the people in the second half of the 20th century, has recently been in desuetude. Former President Barack Obama delivered only three such addresses in his eight years in office. President Donald Trump this week delivered his first one, just days short of completing half his term.

It was a sober address, short but touching some emotive chords, carefully based on facts and proposals -- contrary to the Democrats' meme that it would be based on fears, not facts.

Post-speech fact-checking was particularly farcical. The Washington Post said Trump's claim that ICE officers made "266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records" in two years is accurate but "misleading" because the number includes all crimes. Huh?

Another complaint is that Trump claimed 1 in 3 women in migrant caravans is sexually assaulted. The complainer pointed to a study that says it is 60 to 80 percent of those women. Obviously, nobody knows the actual numbers; a good guess might be "a lot." But it is pretty obvious what's been happening on the southern border.

Attempted border crossings were way down in 2017, presumably for fear of tough Trump enforcement. They rose in 2018, as many Central Americans started arriving with children, hoping to gain entry into the United States by exploiting court-created loopholes in American asylum law. Few had legitimate claims on the political persecution or other traditional grounds for asylum; many complained of high local crime rates, for which, so far as I know, no nation has ever granted asylum.

Now it may be objected that the number of illegal southern border crossings was much higher 15 and 20 years ago. That's why Congress, including Sen. Chuck Schumer, voted in 2006 for more border protection.

And it's possible to argue that in the current hot labor market, illegals have little depressing effect on wages, and that the numbers of violent crimes by illegals, though regrettable, are bearable in a nation of 328 million. Democrats understandably tend to shun these valid but hard-hearted arguments.

Instead they insist vehemently that a wall, which many supported a dozen years ago, will inevitably be ineffective and must be regarded as "immoral."

This first argument flies in the face of evidence. As American Enterprise Institute's Michael Rubin pointed out in 2017, Israel's wall with the West Bank, Morocco's with Algeria, India's with Bangladesh, Hungary's with Serbia and others have reduced illegal crossings to near zero. This year, Rubin reports that France, Iraq, Lithuania, Estonia and Norway are putting up walls. "(I)t is simply counterfactual to suggest that walls won't work, a willful subordination of facts to the politics of the day," he writes.

And why are walls immoral? Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell recognizes the "but the Berlin Wall was to keep people in" argument but insists a wall to keep people out is "medieval" and "a symbol of 'us and not us.'" Well, yes -- U.S. citizens and not U.S. citizens. House Armed Services Committee Chairman Adam Smith says Trump's call for the wall is rooted in "xenophobia and racism."

To say that it is impermissible or racist to distinguish between American citizens and others is to make a case for open borders. Even in the days of Ellis Island, health restrictions blocked some would-be immigrants and deterred perhaps millions of others.

Trump made the argument more gracefully, pointing out that wealthy politicians build walls, fences and gates around their property not "because they hate the people on the outside but because they love the people on the inside." A backyard fence is not a prison wall.

In his speech, Trump was careful to stress that he is seeking better technology, more personal humanitarian assistance and asylum law changes, as well as "a physical barrier." He says, "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

In her response, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi conceded, "we need to secure our borders." And Sen. Schumer said, "Democrats and the president both want stronger border security." You might see these words as pointing toward a deal. I don't.

Pelosi and Schumer insisted, without citing evidence, that a wall is "ineffective" and "unnecessary." Their party seems emotionally fixated on blocking a wall and impervious to argument, even as Trump, perhaps surprisingly, made a dignified and factual case that it's needed to "protect our country."

Government shutdowns, formerly headline news, seem less painful these days (three-quarters of government is funded). Looks like a stalemate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: borderwall; nancypiglosi; presidenttrump

1 posted on 01/11/2019 5:43:11 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The current situation is amazing. Trump is the only adult in the room. Democrats are pathetic.


2 posted on 01/11/2019 5:51:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

Innocent American Lives Don’t Matter in the democrat “Blood for Votes” campaign.


3 posted on 01/11/2019 5:51:57 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: Kaslin

Democrats illogical, and as always,emotional


4 posted on 01/11/2019 5:52:59 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Kaslin

‘Violent crimes by illegals, though regrettable, are bearable’

Tell that to the families who will suffer forever because of our lax border enforcement.


5 posted on 01/11/2019 6:13:01 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye

I’ve been reading blogs critical of Trump and asking what’s the big rush why now? I heard this morning about the new group of 16000 invaders beginning to organize for their trek north to the US. This is after the recent invasion which I think was a disaster for us. The national guard was called, the pentagon got involved, razor wire, extra forces, choppers, tanks and I still see many made it thru. Children were used as pawns,whining about separated families , a couple kids died. I think it was a giant test to see what they could get away with. These invaders are becoming alarmingly organized, bold and more violent. They have the leftists encouraging them. It’s time we get very, very serious and shut this shitte down. Now is not the time for the dims to be playing games and it has me so upset I can’t say.


6 posted on 01/11/2019 6:28:09 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Kaslin

A few thousand rapes and murders is a small price to pay for DNC voter fraud.


7 posted on 01/11/2019 6:34:12 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: lilypad

I would like to find out who exactly is funding these
‘Immigrants’. If that money highway were to be exposed, it would crater much support for the Dems. It is ALWAYS ‘follow the money’, when it comes to the Left.

That being said, I believe no matter what Trump says or does, we are never going to win elections until we get all the Leftist’s cheating under control. I believe that only reason Trump won was the ‘fact’ that Hillary was going to win in a landslide and the Left didn’t bother with there overwhelming cheating. They didn’t think they needed it.


8 posted on 01/11/2019 6:35:54 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Trump....The Truth Detector.
We have your back, sir.


9 posted on 01/11/2019 6:37:15 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Grace and Dignity Will Win The Day)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Love your neighbor, yet don’t pull down your hedge.”

Poor Richard’s Almanack


10 posted on 01/11/2019 6:52:55 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: originalbuckeye
Not if you are on the receiving end. Mother of Murdered Child. YOU NEVER GET OVER IT. My son may not have been the victim of an Illegal, but same principals apply

BUILD THE FREAKING WALL!

OVER $20 MI since yesterday Ret. SR Airman, USAF Triple Amputee has raised. More News coming. And he is working with several Legislators.

www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

11 posted on 01/11/2019 7:33:13 AM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: Kaslin
A Stalemate as Trump Goes Factual, Democrats Illogical

Not quite; but the Libs ARE down 2 bishops and a rook!

12 posted on 01/11/2019 12:08:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lilypad
It’s time we get very, very serious and shut this shitte down.

Kent State South; y'all


13 posted on 01/11/2019 12:09:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

President Trump should set up a counter like this:

and label it either "U.S citizens harmed by illegals" or "Number of illegals arrested for crimes" and undernesth "BUILD THE WALL!"

Would be nice if FOX did this, or any conservatibve website - guaranteed to catch attention. The liberals will scream "Phony Numbers!" which will only advertise it all the more.

14 posted on 01/11/2019 3:42:32 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Oatka

What an old, OLD! picture

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


15 posted on 01/12/2019 3:52:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
[National Debt] What an old, OLD! picture

Indeed, but it was the only quick example I could find. Does make you wonder when it will end - we know the how.

16 posted on 01/13/2019 10:33:38 AM PST by Oatka
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To: Oatka
Well; the USA is spending about 12 Billion a day; so it shouldn't be too long now...
17 posted on 01/13/2019 5:00:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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