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Marijuana Is More Dangerous Than You Think
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 3, 2019 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 01/03/2019 8:36:53 AM PST by reaganaut1

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The most obvious way that cannabis fuels violence in psychotic people is through its tendency to cause paranoia. Even marijuana advocates acknowledge that the drug can cause paranoia; the risk is so obvious that users joke about it, and dispensaries advertise certain strains as less likely to do so. But for people with psychotic disorders, paranoia can fuel extreme violence. A 2007 paper in the Medical Journal of Australia looked at 88 defendants who had committed homicide during psychotic episodes. It found that most of the killers believed they were in danger from the victim, and almost two-thirds reported misusing cannabis—more than alcohol and amphetamines combined.

The link between marijuana and violence doesn’t appear limited to people with pre-existing psychosis. Researchers have studied alcohol and violence for generations, proving that alcohol is a risk factor for domestic abuse, assault and even murder. Far less work has been done on marijuana, in part because advocates have stigmatized anyone who raises the issue. Still, there are studies showing that marijuana use is a significant risk factor for violence.

A 2012 paper in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, examining a federal survey of more than 9,000 adolescents, found that marijuana use was associated with a doubling of domestic violence in the U.S. A 2017 paper in the journal Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, examining drivers of violence among 6,000 British and Chinese men, found that drug use was linked to a fivefold increase in violence, and the drug used was nearly always cannabis.

Before states legalized recreational cannabis, advocates predicted that legalization would let police focus on hardened criminals rather than on marijuana smokers and thus reduce violent crime.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: addiction; cannabis; dopefiends; freedom; godsplant; junkscience; libertines; marijuana; medicaluses; medicine; mrleroy; pitbulls; pot; potheads; tattoos; wod
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To: reaganaut1

One of probably only a few issues I have with marijuana is it is far more potent than it was 30-40 years ago.


61 posted on 01/03/2019 9:18:17 AM PST by Leep (Leftist are neither liberal or democratic. Nor are they pro American.)
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To: Jimmy The Snake
Pot stays in your system for about 30 days and if you test positive, you are considered unsafe to work in the warehouse. A lot of it was an Insurance requirement,

Which is nonsensical - what stays for 30 days is inactive byproducts.

but the local population became such stoners that they would not find anyone who could pass the test. Unfilled positions crippled the operation.

So we should ban all things that make one unproductive? Staying up late?

62 posted on 01/03/2019 9:19:42 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
almost half of Americans have used pot, and most never move up the ladder.

No one you know, perhaps. I've known bank vice presidents, engineers, software designers and defense workers... I'm retired now, and I've known these smokers for a long time. None of them had trouble moving up any kind of ladder they wanted to... your experience might differ but that's mine.

63 posted on 01/03/2019 9:21:47 AM PST by rhombus10
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To: Leep
it is far more potent than it was 30-40 years ago.

And liquor is far more potent than beer. In both cases that simply means less volume consumed to reach the desired effect - which in the case of pot is good because it means a lesser volume of harmful smoke.

64 posted on 01/03/2019 9:21:52 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: rhombus10
almost half of Americans have used pot, and most never move up the ladder.

That's based on government statistics, not my personal anecdotes nor yours.

65 posted on 01/03/2019 9:23:21 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: livius

Evidently, judging from the post by marijuana users/apologists, marijuana use quickly kills off those brain cells that alert to its dangers and replaces them with alien malware.


66 posted on 01/03/2019 9:26:02 AM PST by odawg
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To: DouglasKC
If they're making money hand over fist selling it when it's illegal then why would they stop when it's legal?

That's why the mob is still operating speakeasies with booze run in from Cuba or Canada.

Oh, wait...

67 posted on 01/03/2019 9:26:28 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: NobleFree

Ok, thx. When I start believing government statistics, I’ll vote for a Democrat. The gov has no idea who smokes and who doesn’t.


68 posted on 01/03/2019 9:26:47 AM PST by rhombus10
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To: reaganaut1

Previous marijuana laws were more destructive than the drug. Chronic marijuana use is less destructive than chronic alcohol use. I prefer marijuana regulated under civil law then criminal law. couldn’t read the whole article.


69 posted on 01/03/2019 9:27:58 AM PST by the_daug
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To: SaxxonWoods

I wouldn’t go that far.
But since it is a fact that the brain is not fully developed until around 25.
Perhaps the legal age should be 25-27?


70 posted on 01/03/2019 9:29:06 AM PST by Leep (Leftist are neither liberal or democratic. Nor are they pro American.)
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To: reaganaut1

My take from this thread:

A lot of potheads are in denial.
And please, potheads (and alcoholics) stay off the road. Especially when I’m driving on it.


71 posted on 01/03/2019 9:31:15 AM PST by Signalman
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To: odawg

Cute, but conceding the argument with a stoner joke.


72 posted on 01/03/2019 9:32:29 AM PST by rhombus10
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To: NobleFree

Perhaps you could start a thread on the evils of alcohol?


73 posted on 01/03/2019 9:32:31 AM PST by Leep (Leftist are neither liberal or democratic. Nor are they pro American.)
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To: Signalman

It’s the people taking 8 or 9 prescriptions who scare me on the roads. What do all those drugs do to you over the years? Legal government approved drug abuse.


74 posted on 01/03/2019 9:34:24 AM PST by rhombus10
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To: rhombus10
The gov has no idea who smokes and who doesn’t.

It's based on self-reporting - which has its problems, but certainly no more than personal observation.

And the issue is not whether one has trouble moving up any kind of ladder one wants to but whether one chooses to do so; the best available evidence says most don't so choose.

75 posted on 01/03/2019 9:35:59 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: reaganaut1

Even when the news is good, you can’t change the minds of people who prefer the worst case scenario for reasons known only to them (or not).


76 posted on 01/03/2019 9:36:15 AM PST by equaviator
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To: Leep
Government studies say alcohol turns you into a self-righteous a$$ all too ready to start a fight. And 99% of scientists agree so I guess it's settled. But stoners are funny....
77 posted on 01/03/2019 9:36:56 AM PST by rhombus10
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To: Leep
it is far more potent than it was 30-40 years ago.

And liquor is far more potent than beer. In both cases that simply means less volume consumed to reach the desired effect - which in the case of pot is good because it means a lesser volume of harmful smoke.

Perhaps you could start a thread on the evils of alcohol?

Potent alcohol is no more "evil" than potent pot.

78 posted on 01/03/2019 9:37:43 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: cyclotic
I think it should be a states rights issue. But I also think that a couple states should go full legalization and the others should sit back and watch the results for ten years or so.

Cultivation and possession for personal use has been legal in Alaska since 1975 (43 years). Retail sales was legalized in 2015.

Constitutional carry, more guns than people in my town, legal pot for more than forty years. Virtually no crime.

Hmmmmm.

79 posted on 01/03/2019 9:37:43 AM PST by Chuckster (Battlestar Galactica is not fiction)
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To: reaganaut1

The only affect I had on pot was munchies....


80 posted on 01/03/2019 9:38:12 AM PST by 1217Chic
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