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Sweden Isn't Socialist
Townhall.com ^ | January 1, 2019 | John Stossel

Posted on 01/01/2019 7:18:58 AM PST by Kaslin

For years, I've heard American leftists say Sweden is proof that socialism works, that it doesn't have to turn out as badly as the Soviet Union or Cuba or Venezuela did.

But that's not what Swedish historian Johan Norberg says in a new documentary and Stossel TV video.

"Sweden is not socialist -- because the government doesn't own the means of production. To see that, you have to go to Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea," says Norberg.

"We did have a period in the 1970s and 1980s when we had something that resembled socialism: a big government that taxed and spent heavily. And that's the period in Swedish history when our economy was going south."

Per capita GDP fell. Sweden's growth fell behind other countries. Inflation increased.

Even socialistic Swedes complained about the high taxes.

Astrid Lindgren, author of the popular Pippi Longstocking children's books, discovered that she was losing money by being popular. She had to pay a tax of 102 percent on any new book she sold.

"She wrote this angry essay about a witch who was mean and vicious -- but not as vicious as the Swedish tax authorities," says Norberg.

Yet even those high taxes did not bring in enough money to fund Sweden's big welfare state.

"People couldn't get the pension that they thought they depended on for the future," recounts Norberg. "At that point the Swedish population just said, enough, we can't do this."

Sweden then reduced government's role.

They cut public spending, privatized the national rail network, abolished certain government monopolies, eliminated inheritance taxes and sold state-owned businesses like the maker of Absolut vodka.

They also reduced pension promises "so that it wasn't as unsustainable," adds Norberg.

As a result, says Norberg, his "impoverished peasant nation developed into one of the world's richest countries."

He acknowledges that Sweden, in some areas, has a big government: "We do have a bigger welfare state than the U.S., higher taxes than the U.S., but in other areas, when it comes to free markets, when it comes to competition, when it comes to free trade, Sweden is actually more free market."

Sweden's free market is not burdened by the U.S.'s excessive regulations, special-interest subsidies and crony bailouts. That allows it to fund Sweden's big welfare programs.

"Today our taxes pay for pensions -- you (in the U.S.) call it Social Security -- for 18-month paid parental leave, government-paid childcare for working families," says Norberg.

But Sweden's government doesn't run all those programs. "Having the government manage all of these things didn't work well."

So they privatized.

"We realized in Sweden that with these government monopolies, we don't get the innovation that we get when we have competition," says Norberg.

Sweden switched to a school voucher system. That allows parents to pick their kids' school and forced schools to compete for the voucher money.

"One result that we've seen is not just that the private schools are better," says Norberg, "but even public schools in the vicinity of private schools often improve, because they have to."

Sweden also partially privatized its retirement system. In America, the Cato Institute proposed something similar. President George W. Bush supported the idea but didn't explain it well. He dropped the idea when politicians complained that privatizing Social Security scared voters.

Swedes were frightened by the idea at first, too, says Norberg, "But when they realized that the alternative was that the whole pension system would collapse, they thought that this was much better than doing nothing."

So Sweden supports its welfare state with private pensions, school choice and fewer regulations, and in international economic-freedom comparisons, Sweden often earns a higher ranking than the U.S.

Next time you hear democratic socialists talk about how socialist Sweden is, remind them that the big welfare state is funded by Swedes' free market practices, not their socialist ones.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: freemarkets; socialism; sweden
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1 posted on 01/01/2019 7:18:58 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
"Astrid Lindgren, author of the popular Pippi Longstocking children's books, discovered that she was losing money by being popular. She had to pay a tax of 102 percent on any new book she sold."

Seems reasonable.

2 posted on 01/01/2019 7:21:04 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Kaslin

That was a long way around saying that they realized socialism doesn’t work and are slowly getting rid of their foolish ideas.


3 posted on 01/01/2019 7:23:37 AM PST by Baynative ("A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore)
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To: Kaslin
and sold state-owned businesses like the maker of Absolut vodka.

How did the state come to own Absolut in the first place?

4 posted on 01/01/2019 7:24:25 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article.

Very good explanation of how Sweden is not socialist.


5 posted on 01/01/2019 7:26:31 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Baynative
That was a long way around saying that they realized socialism doesn’t work and are slowly getting rid of their foolish ideas.

In a narrow economic sense, yes. But, looking at their self-destructive immigration policies, one might say they have just substituted one bad set of ideas for another, and even more dangerous set.

6 posted on 01/01/2019 7:27:46 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Kaslin
...we don't get the innovation...

Bingo! That's a major flaw in socialism.
7 posted on 01/01/2019 7:29:09 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: marktwain

They remain uncured of allowing foreign monsters into their country.


8 posted on 01/01/2019 7:29:46 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They remain uncured of allowing foreign monsters into their country.

An enormous problem, in itself. Related to the whole secular humanist non-sense.

9 posted on 01/01/2019 7:31:23 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: EEGator

Sweden has imported a huge free sh*t army that will vote for socialism in the very near future.


10 posted on 01/01/2019 7:31:35 AM PST by 2banana (Were you)
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To: Baynative

Yes, but as of today, it is illegal to speak ill of x-gendered folks. Don’t know what the punishment is but....... Guess the first amendment doesn’t apply to them. Not sure I want to see what makes up the Swedish bikini team anymore either. Can I say that?


11 posted on 01/01/2019 7:35:53 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: 2banana

Malmo Muslim brigade.


12 posted on 01/01/2019 7:36:55 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Sweden was the one place where semi Socialism sorta worked. It worked to the extent that it did because they had a homogeneous population with a strong moral/work ethic. Then they put radicle feminists in charge and the murdering savages arrived.


13 posted on 01/01/2019 7:38:07 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Kaslin

I had an interesting conversation with a person who went to work in sweden for a couple of years. She said she was questioned extensively about her relationship and when she was planning on becoming pregnant. Most of her interview was spent on it, in fact.
I am not clear in the details, but there is a long absence granted.
It’s interesting how i can’t ask if someone is pregnant here.


14 posted on 01/01/2019 7:38:47 AM PST by momincombatboots (Billions to Mexico & Central America and No wall for YOU. #MAGA But violent felons are free.)
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To: Kaslin

Technically, communism is when the government owns the means of production AND distribution.

Socialism is private production and government distribution.

And with anything else, it’s a matter of degree, i.e., how much of the economic production and distribution does the government “run”.

E.g., progressive tax rates, instead of one tax rate for all, is a socialist distribution scheme.


15 posted on 01/01/2019 7:40:27 AM PST by fruser1
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“Sweden’s free market is not burdened by the U.S.’s excessive regulations, special-interest subsidies and crony bailouts.”

Truth.

Our economic freedom is weaker and weaker, as the government manipulated the economy, regulates more, and takes money from earners to subsidize businesses - picking favored political cronies.


16 posted on 01/01/2019 7:42:54 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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Per capita GDP fell. Sweden’s growth fell behind other countries. Inflation increased.

...

More evidence that economic growth doesn’t cause inflation.

In fact, it’s the opposite.

I hope Trump kicks the Federal Reserve’s ass.


17 posted on 01/01/2019 7:43:24 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: rktman

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/teacher-transgender-student-girl-accident-call-trans-wrong-gender-joshua-sutcliffe-a8054146.html

“...misgendering a transgender pupil...”
I never thought I would read that.


18 posted on 01/01/2019 7:43:35 AM PST by EEGator
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To: momincombatboots

480 days parental leave.


19 posted on 01/01/2019 7:46:04 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Kaslin

The government claims it is no longer stupid and socialist.

Now they are just stupid.


20 posted on 01/01/2019 7:46:05 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (To become truly great, one must stand with people, not above them - Baron Montesquieu: 1689-1775)
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