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House Democrats Are Lining Up Behind What Could Be The Largest Expansion Of Government In Decades
Daily Caller ^ | 25DEC18 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 12/25/2018 5:46:45 PM PST by vannrox

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To: LegendHasIt

“I reckon this will be another one of those “we have to pass it to find out what is in it” deals.”

I don’t understand all the hysteria about such proposals, since there are not enough votes in the Senate to pass such nonsense, and even if there were, neither house has enough lefty votes to override a Trump veto. The RATS in the House are going to go bat $hit crazy for twenty four months then the House will go back to GOP leadership.


101 posted on 12/26/2018 2:44:02 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vannrox

yeah baby, that’s what we need now, more worthless leaches called federal employees.
Big gub mint a holes should be the ones in re-edumacation camps.


102 posted on 12/26/2018 3:53:06 AM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: Joe Boucher

OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


103 posted on 12/26/2018 3:55:44 AM PST by abclily
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To: vannrox

I guess if America swallows another Obama poison pill, we are doomed.


104 posted on 12/26/2018 4:11:29 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: vette6387

Did my post REALLY seem hysterical to you?

Did my post suggest that I thought “Oh my God!!!, AOC and Bernie are going to make legislation that becomes law to destroy the economy!!!!.”?

Or did my post merely point out that since they have no idea of what the details would be, that Nancy Pelosi would probably fall back on one of her famous sayings?


105 posted on 12/26/2018 4:16:44 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: vannrox

The house can pass any bill they want. But where is it going to go. The Senate must also approve of any bill that the house passes. And then it goes to the President to either sign or veto.

So the question is, why would the President allow any of these crazy ideas from the House become law?

I would be worried if the Democrats controlled the Senate and someone like Hillary was President, but until then articles like this are just FAKE NEWS.


106 posted on 12/26/2018 4:41:00 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: LegendHasIt

ultimate gloBULL warming insiders’ poll, funded by gloBULL warming insiders; FakeNews.

14 Dec: Yale Climate Change Communication: The Green New Deal has Strong Bipartisan Support
By Abel Gustafson, Seth Rosenthal, Anthony Leiserowitz, Edward Maibach, John Kotcher, Matthew Ballew and Matthew Goldberg

Some members of Congress are proposing a “Green New Deal” for the U.S. They say that a Green New Deal will produce jobs and strengthen America’s economy by accelerating the transition from fossil fuels to clean, renewable energy. The Deal would generate 100% of the nation’s electricity from clean, renewable sources within the next 10 years; upgrade the nation’s energy grid, buildings, and transportation infrastructure; increase energy efficiency; invest in green technology research and development; and provide training for jobs in the new green economy...

Methods
These data were produced by the bi-annual Climate Change in the American Mind survey — a nationally-representative analysis of public opinion on climate change in the United States conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication.
Surveys were conducted using the Ipsos KnowledgePanel®, a representative online panel of U.S. adults (18+), from November 28 to December 11, 2018. All questionnaires were self-administered by respondents in a web-based environment...

Funding Sources
11th Hour Project, the Endeavor Foundation, the Energy Foundation, the TomKat Foundation, the Grantham Foundation, and the MacArthur Foundation
http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/the-green-new-deal-has-strong-bipartisan-support/


107 posted on 12/26/2018 4:41:37 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: vannrox

The New Deal and the Great Society are both failures that are bankrupting this nation. We cannot afford a third such failure.


108 posted on 12/26/2018 5:03:37 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: vette6387

Never get complacent. The Republican party doesn’t have much in the way of party discipline and agitating against such measures is going to be necessary.


109 posted on 12/26/2018 5:10:45 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: vannrox

VETO!!!!!!!!!!


110 posted on 12/26/2018 6:39:11 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: LegendHasIt

Her logic indeed


111 posted on 12/26/2018 7:41:59 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: vannrox

So much for our hopes that entire departments would be eliminated.


112 posted on 12/26/2018 8:57:56 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: LegendHasIt
“Did my post REALLY seem hysterical to you?”

My comment was general in nature, not directed at you. All these articles about how the RAT Congress is going to do this or that, when you look at the political landscape are just bull$hit! Unless the GOPE becomes the handmaiden of the RATs to the extent that they can collectively override a Trump veto, all it will amount to is a bunch of self-flaggelation on Capitol Hill for the next two years. And as I see it, it will all be of great benefit to the President, because both the RATs and the RINOs will make fools of themselves in front of the voters with the result that they are ALL tossed out of office in 2020 along with the return to the White House of Donald J. Trump.

113 posted on 12/26/2018 9:37:06 AM PST by vette6387
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"Indeed, it takes its name from the New Deal of the 1930s, and its main backer, incoming Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, compared it to the Great Society of the 1960s."

While Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's intentions for the country are arguably commendable, likewise concerning the intentions of her Democratic and RINO colleagues, caring politicians like her need to get themselves elected as state lawmakers, not federal lawmakers, for the following reason.

Patriots are reminded that the congressional record shows that the Founding States left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the constitutionally limited power federal government.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)


In fact, a previous generation state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justice had clarified that it was up to the individual states to experiment with their own social spending programs to find out what programs work or don’t work for a state, a given program’s success ultimately decided by a state’s taxpaying voters.

"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” — Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.

But then misguided FDR, along with the likewise misguided, post-17th Amendment ratification Democratic Congress at the time, wrongly established FDR’s New Deal programs without first successfully petitioning the states for new amendments to the Constitution. Such amendments would have given the feds the specific new powers that they need to tax and spend for such programs, FDR's New Deal programs actually funded by state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.

And with all due respect to college fraternities, we’ve now got crook federal lawmakers who spend taxpayer dollars like drunk frat boys.

The bottom line is this. The states cannot experiment with social spending programs as the Founding States had intended because the corrupt feds keep stealing state revenues to run unconstitutional, vote-winning federal spending programs, the feds infamous for their bad management of such programs.

Patriots need to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional federal interference in the affairs of the sovereign states by supporting Pres. Trump in working with the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

114 posted on 12/26/2018 10:16:41 AM PST by Amendment10
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We are 22 trillion in debt, in between cyclic glacial expansions, and the best the leftist morons can do, is develop a plan for more debt as they insanely attempt to cool the planet. They need to be outlawed from holding government positions. How much more prove do we need ?


115 posted on 12/26/2018 11:02:26 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: piytar

Yes, and we we all know how well that worked out!


116 posted on 12/26/2018 9:13:47 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski

It worked out exactly how the left wanted it to: crushed the middle class, created more government dependent poor, and didn’t touch those Uber-rich politically connected people especially on the left. And they’re trying again.


117 posted on 12/27/2018 8:29:24 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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And we have 40, 50, how many million (certainly not 12 million) and growing new “Americans” who don’t know any better?!


118 posted on 12/27/2018 8:31:58 PM PST by riri
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To: riri

Yup.


119 posted on 12/27/2018 11:53:31 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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