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Over One Million Gun Owners Refuse to Obey Ban, No One Turning in Magazines
Black Listed news ^ | December 19, 2018 | By Matt Agorist

Posted on 12/22/2018 3:21:38 AM PST by vannrox

New Jersey — Unless you’ve been under a rock lately, then you’ve likely seen the unprecedented push by all levels of government to separate law abiding Americans from their guns. No, this is not some conspiracy theory. The president himself ushered in a new level of gun control doing what his liberal predecessor even refused to do by banning bump stocks. However, as states across the country seek to limit the ability of innocent people to defend themselves, people are disobeying.

In May, Gov. Phil Murphy signed a law that reduced the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines from 15 rounds to 10. Citizens immediately sued the government, citing the unconstitutional nature of the ban, but they failed.

“New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home,” the court wrote in their decision. “The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified.”

AG Gurbir Grewal applauded the ruling on Twitter stating: “This just in: for months, individuals have been challenging NJ’s limits on large capacity magazines—a sensible law to address mass shootings. Today, the court of appeals upheld the law. Big win for public safety and law enforcement safety!”

This month, citizens were given a December 11 deadline on their new ban on standard capacity magazines. The law effectively turned one million law abiding gun owners into criminals, literally over night if they failed to turn in the magazines.

Somehow, New Jersey lawmakers thought insane individuals who want to carry out mass shootings would be lining up to turn in their 15-round magazines as anyone caught with one of these banned magazines is now committing a fourth-degree felony. However, even the law abiding citizens are choosing to disobey—and that’s a good thing.

According to Ammoland.com, who says they spoke with multiple police departments throughout the state, no one has turned in their magazines.

Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AG’s office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance.

All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them.

AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled.

This act of disobedience is the only way that law-abiding citizens can effectively and peacefully fight back against the gun grabbers. And so far, it has been effective.

As TFTP has reported, we’ve seen similar acts of disobedience from other states like Illinois. In Effingham County, IL, the town board voted in April to order its employees not to enforce any laws that would “unconstitutionally restrict the Second Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution.

Effingham County State’s Attorney Bryan Kibler said the measure is meant to act as a warning shot to tell the state legislature that the county does not want unnecessary gun control measures, or for the sale of firearms to be jeopardized. The resolution states:

The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms is guaranteed as an Individual Right under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and under the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and; the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms for defense of Life, Liberty, and Property is regarded as an Inalienable Right by the People of Effingham County, Illinois, and the People of Effingham County, Illinois, derive economic benefit from all safe forms of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting conducted within Effingham County using all types of firearms allowable under the United States Constitution.

Board member David Campbell told Fox News that the county “decided it’s time for someone to take a hard stand.” Indeed, as we’ve noted time and again, rights are preserved and gained when good people make a stand and refuse to obey bad laws.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammo; bandemocrat; banglist; gun; newjersey
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1 posted on 12/22/2018 3:21:38 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox

MOLON LABE! = Come and take them (if you can, if you dare)!


2 posted on 12/22/2018 3:32:43 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007
MOLON LABE! (if you can, if you dare)!

They certainly can try; but do they dare?

3 posted on 12/22/2018 3:39:28 AM PST by Ace's Dad
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To: vannrox

Nobody complied with Anrew Cuomo’s SAFE Act either.

There are millions of AR and AK weapons in NY that are not registered, and will not be registered, nor have they been moved or sold “out of state”.


4 posted on 12/22/2018 3:40:24 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: vannrox

The only threat to them is the legal gun owners, the thugs and gangbangers are far from their gated communities and pose no threat. By disarming us we pose no threat to their criminal antics and control and the armed thugs and ganbangers will take care of us so they don’t have to


5 posted on 12/22/2018 3:42:46 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip pod cast)
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To: vannrox
Turn in my guns while Democrats are trying to turn this country into a 3rd world totalitarian hellhole?

As Chuck would say...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw


6 posted on 12/22/2018 3:43:29 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Until Hillary is in jail, equal justice under the law will not exist in the USA)
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To: vannrox

Mass Civil Disobedience has historically worked before.


7 posted on 12/22/2018 3:45:45 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

Amen and Amen


8 posted on 12/22/2018 3:51:02 AM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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To: vannrox

How many millions refuse to comply with immigration laws?


9 posted on 12/22/2018 3:53:09 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

“How many millions refuse to comply with immigration laws?”

Good point. Only the Trump administration is legally bound to obey what Federal judges decree the immigration law is.

It is high time that the Trump administration do what the sanctuary people do — that is, do what it chooses to do.


10 posted on 12/22/2018 4:08:44 AM PST by odawg
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To: vannrox

We have guns to fight tyranny. This is unconstitutional. The govt is not our God.


11 posted on 12/22/2018 4:10:14 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Carry me back

Trump shouldn’t have caved on bump stocks.


12 posted on 12/22/2018 4:12:13 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: vannrox

How many and what type of firearms are you allowed to own in China?


13 posted on 12/22/2018 4:16:22 AM PST by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Openurmind

“Mass Civil Disobedience has historically worked before.”

The yellow vest people are certainly getting attention as unarmed citizens. I just wonder what would happen if the people peaceably demonstrated with legal firearms without any intent to shoot anyone? If demonstrator had something as simple as a cased bolt action deer rifle, and kept it in its case, how would the lefties react?


14 posted on 12/22/2018 4:26:15 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: vannrox

Ct required that the magazines be registered. People lined up around the block. I moved to SC instead.

Some NJ citizens will no doubt bury their magazines in the backyard to avoid confiscation and arrest. Many more will conclude that it’s time to leave, as if they didn’t have ample reasons before the ban.


15 posted on 12/22/2018 4:44:32 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: vannrox

Anyone here read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross?

Deals with this subject at length and is a very good read. Used copies sell for hundreds of dollars but it can be downloaded.

https://archive.org/details/JohnRossUnintendedConsequences


16 posted on 12/22/2018 4:53:53 AM PST by GMMC0987
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To: vannrox
Just Say No .... might actually work.

Y'gonn'a prosecute and lock up a state ???

17 posted on 12/22/2018 4:55:28 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That moment would have made more of an impact had Chuck been lifting up an AR or an AK variant rather than some museum piece


18 posted on 12/22/2018 4:56:09 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: vannrox

There is a law against murder. Always has been.

There are still murders being committed.

Go figure. I mean, there is a LAW against it!!!

(Do I really have to put the sarc/ tag here?)


19 posted on 12/22/2018 5:00:00 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: vannrox
The law effectively turned one million law abiding gun owners into criminals, literally over night if they failed to turn in the magazines.

I have not *ever* purchased a firearm in the state of New Jersey that came with more than a 10 round magazine in the box with the firearm. Manufacturers package firearms with different features and accessories depending on state laws. New Jersey's 15 round limit was unique among the states for years so many firearms were sold with 10 round magazines instead of, say, 17 round magazines sold in free states. That's not to say that thousands of pistols weren't sold here with 11-15 round magazines but I have never purchased one and I don't think it adds up to a million owners. And why turn it in when you can sell it out of state, store it out of state or in the case of a magazine that is of little value, just take the spring and follower out, stomp on it and throw it in the trash?

So I kinda doubt it.

New Jersey is a small state. Almost everyone has a friend across the river in the Free State of Pennsylvania to hold onto magazines as this winds its way through the courts. California is in the lead through the courts now, New Jersey is following at the tail-end.

20 posted on 12/22/2018 5:02:44 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre)
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