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Discontinuance of Accessory Classifications (ATF)
ATF email newsletter ^ | 2018-12-10 | ATF.GOV

Posted on 12/10/2018 1:34:31 PM PST by old-ager

Discontinuance of Accessory Classifications Effective Immediately: The Firearms Technology Industry Services Branch (FTISB) classifies firearms as defined by the Gun Control Act (GCA) and National Firearms Act (NFA) based on the configuration and the design features of the firearm as submitted by members of the industry.

Effective immediately, any requests for a determination on how an accessory affects the classification of a firearm under the GCA or NFA must include a firearm with the accessory already installed. Except in cases of conditional import determinations, FTISB will not issue a determination on an accessory unless it is attached to the submitted firearm.

If you have previously submitted a sample accessory for classification, FTISB will be returning your sample without classification. FTISB will contact you in the near future with further instructions to facilitate the return of your sample.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2a; atf; banglist; braking; bumpstock; email
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Bumpstocks, arm braces, angled foregrips and other accessories have received letters (sometimes contradictory) from ATF.
1 posted on 12/10/2018 1:34:31 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

What about shoulder things that go up?


2 posted on 12/10/2018 1:36:13 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: old-ager

If there’s no determination, does that mean it’s ok?


3 posted on 12/10/2018 1:37:24 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

What do I win, Alex?

4 posted on 12/10/2018 1:37:49 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (XY)
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To: old-ager

We’ve overwhelmed them.


5 posted on 12/10/2018 1:38:07 PM PST by The Toll
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To: old-ager

So if you want an accessory rated/classified, you have to provide a firearm with it installed?

Trying to kill off the small manufacturers with ridiculous qualification requirements.

ATF should be a convenience store...


6 posted on 12/10/2018 1:38:33 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

7 posted on 12/10/2018 1:39:22 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (XY)
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To: Don W

This _should_ kill off the idea that one can convert a legal firearm into an illegal one by adding an accessory.


8 posted on 12/10/2018 1:40:16 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

UTG > ATF


9 posted on 12/10/2018 1:42:06 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Uncle Miltie

Is that an illustration of a “Gear Queer”?


10 posted on 12/10/2018 1:44:54 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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And if they say it’s not approved you have just manufactured an unregistered firearm and provided them indisputable evidence.


11 posted on 12/10/2018 1:46:41 PM PST by suthener
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To: Uncle Miltie

Odd ideal of a “Cheek weld”, but likely a millennial that watched too much CGI crap.


12 posted on 12/10/2018 1:50:19 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: suthener

Have them test the Polish Target Pistol.


13 posted on 12/10/2018 1:50:53 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: old-ager

Sounds like the ATF is overwhelmed by the burgeoning AR pistol market.

Maybe this will prompt the ATF to recommend (to the extent they can) that Congress do away with the silly, arbitrary restriction of SBRs.


14 posted on 12/10/2018 2:01:20 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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No law allows this. It is a whim by executive order.

Our next democrat president will be a rabid radical out for revenge on the Trump years. They will write an EO “deeming” Ar-15 and AK pattern rifles to be NFA items requiring the full NFA process.

Who would stop them?


15 posted on 12/10/2018 2:11:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“Maybe this will prompt the ATF to recommend (to the extent they can) that Congress do away with the silly, arbitrary restriction of SBRs.”

Yeah...that’s what will happen. ATF is about to lobby deregulate SBR’s. And probably silencers too.


16 posted on 12/10/2018 2:14:32 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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So if you want an accessory rated/classified, you have to provide a firearm with it installed?

Will an approval be universal for the accessory or only for the weapon/accessory combination submitted?

Will they demand the manufacturer make a separate submission and provide a separate sample for every weapon the accessory can be used with?

That would be one way to tighten the screws on accessory manufacturers through bureaucratic red tape instead of legislative or executive action.


17 posted on 12/10/2018 2:20:26 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (Yes Dorothy, Windows 10 sucks even in Kansas!)
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To: suthener

And you wont get it back.


18 posted on 12/10/2018 2:21:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: old-ager

So who does this really affect? Is this necessary step or simply obstructionism?


19 posted on 12/10/2018 2:29:56 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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I suggest following this YT channel for interpretation. I am not affiliated with them. I don’t know the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Sturmgewehre/videos

I don’t think people are going to stop buying accessories.

I hope NRA and Trump pull their heads out, regarding bump stocks.


20 posted on 12/10/2018 2:39:34 PM PST by old-ager
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