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‘Borderline Impossible’: Noted Scientist Tackles Sea Level Rise Alarmism
dailycaller.com ^ | 12/10/2018 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 12/10/2018 10:54:32 AM PST by rktman

When it comes to alarming projections of global warming-induced sea level rise, veteran climate scientist Judith Curry says people need to cool it.

“Projections of extreme, alarming impacts are very weakly justified to borderline impossible,” Curry told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Curry’s latest research, put together for clients of her consulting company near the end of November, looks in detail at projections of sea level rise. Curry’s ultimate conclusion: “Some of the worst-case scenarios strain credulity.”

“With regards to 21st century climate projections, we are dealing with deep uncertainty, and we should not be basing our policies based on the assumption that the climate will actually evolve as per predicted,” Curry told TheDCNF.

“Climate variability and change is a lot more complex than ‘CO2 as control knob’,” Curry said. “No one wants to hear this, or actually spend time understanding things,” Curry said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; climatebunko; evildenier; globalwarminghoax; science
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Ruh Roh! Denier alert! Denier alert! No doubt algore's attack dogs are getting ready to be unleashed on her.
1 posted on 12/10/2018 10:54:32 AM PST by rktman
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All of the AGW types keep using CO2 as the root cause of warming. Ice core analysis has shown time and again that CO2 FOLLOWS all global warming.
2 posted on 12/10/2018 10:57:58 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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[[“Climate variability and change is a lot more complex than ‘CO2 as control knob’,” Curry said]]

Hey curry- appreciate you taking a stand, but CO2 is not a ‘control knob’ at all- there isn’t nearly enough of it to be one- the atmosphere has only 0.00136% CO2 in it- that;s it- that small amount aint controlling nuthin!

Also- ice core samples prove that temperatures always rise first- hundreds of years BEFORE CO2 rises- so how in the heck is CO2 a ‘control knob’ again?


3 posted on 12/10/2018 11:03:28 AM PST by Bob434
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To: rjsimmon

AGW is fraud. It’s always been fraud. It will only ever be fraud.

It’s a scam to fleece the sheep and create the appearance of a need for a totalitarian government. It has never been anything else.


4 posted on 12/10/2018 11:04:36 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Bob434

It’s amazing they can even measure such a small amount of CO2 ,oh wait so they make it up


5 posted on 12/10/2018 11:06:58 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: rktman

No one wants to hear this, or actually spend time understanding things ... or anything else which require more than 30 seconds to understand - hence sound bites teach all anyone needs to know abut anything.

And so America declined into a vacuous vacuum headed mindless morass of unthinking porno watching gamers seeking ever more free stuff at some one else’s expense.


6 posted on 12/10/2018 11:10:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Bob434

Possibly being facetious?


7 posted on 12/10/2018 11:10:39 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH)
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Actually, instead of all the computer modeling, I would like to see them build a complex model system in which they can simulate the sun, sun-spots, atmospheric changes, etc. etc. Of course it would be too complicated to build any such model in which all the various contributory components were included (e.g. ocean temperatures, cloud cover, urban heat sinks, variability of the soil/rock/substrate to hold or radiate temperatures over time, etc. etc.), but at least it would be something ‘real’ you could do tests in.

I find it interesting that after years and years of development of computer modeling in aircraft design, engineers still also use wind tunnels. Arguably, the amount of variables involved in aircraft (or auto) development are many fewer and less complex than those involved in weather and climate on a planetary scale, yet there is still enough uncertainty that an actual physical model system remains indispensable. Yet, climate scientists use computer modeling exclusively in their predictions and have the hubris to say it's ‘settled science’..

8 posted on 12/10/2018 11:11:36 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: rktman

btt


9 posted on 12/10/2018 11:12:43 AM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: Bob434

The root cause of every human ill is capitalism and freedom. So according to every leftist on earth.

CO2 is just a by-product of capitalism and freedom.


10 posted on 12/10/2018 11:13:30 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: rktman

Bump!


11 posted on 12/10/2018 11:16:40 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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No one wants to hear this, or actually spend time understanding things...

Not when there's grant money at stake. She is correct that nobody should base political policy on bad science but it turns out that the scientists who are complicit are the ones who get the cash.

12 posted on 12/10/2018 11:18:17 AM PST by Billthedrill
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I didn’t read the whole article- but usually these folks believe man is responsible- they just differ on how much- the excerpt sounded like he still believes man is responsible, but questions how much- The facts show that CO2 isn’t a control knob at all- there isn’t nearly enough for starts, and the facts show CO2 follows heat temp rises, not preceding it-


13 posted on 12/10/2018 11:19:08 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Grimmy

“environmentalism is the future of socialism” - German Minister at the 1986 world socialist conference.

“Ecosocialism combines the ideas of ecology and socialism, ... it would make a drastic impact and open the door to a clean energy future”


14 posted on 12/10/2018 11:21:57 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: neverevergiveup

[[Yet, climate scientists use computer modeling exclusively in their predictions and have the hubris to say it’s ‘settled science’..]]

When the facts refute the claims, scream ‘DENIERS!” and claim that it’s “Settled Science” to shut down any debate and to try to make your opponents look like ignorant clueless ‘science deniers’, ‘science haters’- that’s how science works these days


15 posted on 12/10/2018 11:23:03 AM PST by Bob434
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To: rjsimmon

“All of the AGW types keep using CO2 as the root cause of warming. Ice core analysis has shown time and again that CO2 FOLLOWS all global warming. “

Right.

But THIS TIME is different!/s


16 posted on 12/10/2018 11:25:46 AM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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If you really want to drive those types crazy, ask them 2 questions:

- Is mankind special, or are we just advanced monkeys?

- If we’re just advanced monkeys, then our existence is just another part of the natural world, so why are you trying to curb our natural behavior?


17 posted on 12/10/2018 11:26:12 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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The Greenland Ice sheet (the part on land, not sea ice) is growing not melting. If that continues and spreads to other ice sheets the oceans will retreat not rise.


18 posted on 12/10/2018 11:26:16 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: neverevergiveup

Interesting thought. A model that complex would require a Cray at the very least, and they ain’t cheap.

My largest concern with any predictive model is, of course, the data being fed into it. I believe that there are those who wish to produce an accurate model and get scientific results that can be scrutinized and seen as competent. But without hundreds of thousands of reporting stations, physically separated from artificial heating and cooling, the extracted data is tainted if not discardable.

Stations need to accurately report: temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, wind speed and direction. All of those factors need reported at the surface, 5k’, 10k’, 30k’ and 100k’ in order to garner an accurate representation of conditions on the planet.

After that, we need external influencers such as the Sun and its derivatives such as CME’s and sun spots. Then, we need to account for gravitational perterbations and the moon’s influence as well as that of the oceans and large lakes.

Most of this is conveniently overlooked in climate models.


19 posted on 12/10/2018 11:30:10 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: MeganC

“The root cause of every human ill is capitalism and freedom. So according to every leftist on earth.

CO2 is just a by-product of capitalism and freedom”.


That is all you need to know to understand what is going on.


20 posted on 12/10/2018 11:34:54 AM PST by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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