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Joseph Dunford: SDF defeated strongest terrorist organization in ME
ANHA Hawar News ^ | 12/09/2018 | news desk

Posted on 12/09/2018 8:18:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil

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Men (and women) who are in battle together for a long time, develop a special bond. It is built on trust and common experience.

It is good the General Dunford recognizes the contribution of the SDF in Syria.

I'm concerned that our State Department employees often don't see this.

Wishful thinking and high level discussion with foreign nations often obscure reality.

I fear that we are ignoring the reality of Turkey's ambitions and actions. That problem will not be settled by appeasement.

1 posted on 12/09/2018 8:18:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: BeauBo; Candor7; ColdOne; Navy Patriot; caww; huldah1776; dp0622; Gene Eric; Freemeorkillme; ...
Syria Ping
2 posted on 12/09/2018 8:29:04 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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An ignorant man. That was a tour de force in asshattery. SDF is the rebranding of Al Qeida in Syria combined with other Sunni head choppers.
It’s astonishing to see this level of ignorance in such an important position.


3 posted on 12/09/2018 8:39:14 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Texas Fossil

And his “plan” is that Afghanistan sand Syria go on forever


4 posted on 12/09/2018 8:40:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

You need to investigate this further as your comment is displaying your ignorance on this matter.


5 posted on 12/09/2018 8:57:43 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: DesertRhino

Well, I doubt that is reality.

The “way” we exited Iraq was a problem.

Afghanistan? Possibly lost cause.

Syria? hurdle is getting neighbors to accept the stability that is already happening after ISIS’s defeat. They still have die hards holding out in far Eastern Syria. We are making progress in eliminating them.

But the pocket that Erdogan the Islamist dictoator of Turkey seeded into a once peaceful Efrin, does not speak well for what they now want to do. A big financial hick-up is coming for Turkey, will that dampen the Neo Ottoman dream?


6 posted on 12/09/2018 9:12:44 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DesertRhino

Without Russia and the USA, Syria would be shredded and most likely flying the ISIS flag. Under a Clinton regime, this would be reality. This opinion that we are “there” for the long term is troubling as is this lost cause in Afghanistan.


7 posted on 12/09/2018 9:24:04 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DesertRhino
SDF is the rebranding of Al Qeida in Syria combined with other Sunni head choppers.

With all due respect. Absolutely wrong. Never has been that. YPG/YPJ had nothing to do with any of McCains unicorn Arab jihadi armies. Local Arabs just prior to the Siege of Raqqa were added to pacify Erdogan, because he accused the Kurds of ethnic cleansing. Which they never did.

8 posted on 12/09/2018 9:27:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: DesertRhino
So in Syria it is AQiS rebranded as the SDF against ISIS. Where does Iran/Hezbollah fit into this devils brew? Further, why are we involved with any of these groups other than to bomb all on general principles?
9 posted on 12/09/2018 9:42:04 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: Texas Fossil

The way we exited Iraq was not the problem. The problem with Iraq was that the mission was ill concieved, and unobtainable by the means we were willing to employ.

Since we were unwilling to succeed, we should never have been there.


10 posted on 12/09/2018 9:54:50 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Texas Fossil

I agree with you in all you said.

And while the SDF and its allies in the specific Kurdish organizations have been the greatest hinderance to ISIS in Syria, Erodogan and his hinderance of the Kurds has consequentially been ISIS greatest ally.

Erdogan’s attacks in Syria have zero to do with terrorism in the region and 100% to do with his fundamentalist Islamic goals and his desire to prevent the uniting of all the Kurds in any way whatsoever.

The Kurds who deserved political autonomy the most were the least considered by the powers that divided up the former Ottoman Empire, and they were feared the most by Turkish nationalism that didn’t seek to merely protect the Turks of the Ottoman Empire but continued Turkish domination of as much of the old Empire as they could, in spite of and regardless of the sizeable groups of non-Turks in the area that the Turks sought their dominance in. The losers were the Greeks, Armenians, Kurds and others in and ajoining Anatolia.

The Kurdish model for the future should be for a Kurdish declaration of a constitution much like Israel - a Kurdistan that is the declared homeland of the Kurish people, while simulatenously a secular democratic state with equal rights, including religious and political rights, for all citizens within it.


11 posted on 12/09/2018 10:42:06 AM PST by Wuli
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Yes. I believe that is possible except for interference of Turkey.
12 posted on 12/09/2018 10:45:58 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: MrEdd

There were unspoken events that took place back then, which have never been presented to the public.


13 posted on 12/09/2018 10:48:15 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Syria does not need anything from the US, and its allies, except for them to get the hell out.

Syria Yesterday- 12/8/2018


14 posted on 12/09/2018 2:38:23 PM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: robowombat

SDF has NEVER been that. It originated from the Kurdish YPG/YPJ, which had NOTHING to do with any of McCains unicorn Arab jihadi armies. Local Arabs just before the Siege of Raqqa were incorporated to try to mollify Erdogan, because he accused the Kurds of ethnic cleansing-which they DIDN’T do. DR must be confusing the SDF with the so-called “Free Brian Army”.


15 posted on 12/09/2018 7:47:23 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Robert Mueller is the Kenneth Starr of the 21st Century-only with not as much integrity.)
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To: DesertRhino; Texas Fossil

SDF did NOT originate with the “Sunni head choppers”. They originated with the YPG/YPJ , who were LEFT-WING and affiliated with the PKK. You’re confusing them with the “Free Syrian Army”. If you know anything at all about the SDF, you’d know that they are secular and, yes, a bit on the Left side of the political spectrum. Are you one of the people blindly supporting Assad?


16 posted on 12/09/2018 7:50:40 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Robert Mueller is the Kenneth Starr of the 21st Century-only with not as much integrity.)
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To: DesertRhino

BTW, if SDF did originate from the “Sunni head choppers”, Erdogan would probably be involved in supporting them, but he’s not. In fact, he hates them.


17 posted on 12/09/2018 7:54:45 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Robert Mueller is the Kenneth Starr of the 21st Century-only with not as much integrity.)
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To: sockmonkey

You don’t think we should make sure that we destroy ISIS?


18 posted on 12/09/2018 7:55:26 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Robert Mueller is the Kenneth Starr of the 21st Century-only with not as much integrity.)
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*** You don’t think we should make sure that we destroy ISIS? ***

Syria and her allies do not need the US’s help to rid the country of ISIS.


19 posted on 12/09/2018 8:23:42 PM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: Jacob Kell; Texas Fossil

From Iraqi Christians, re: Syria:

Iraqi Christian HRC
@iraqschristians

We are getting a lot of threats and harassment from Kurdish-YPG terrorists in Syria & their supporters for exposing what Kurdish-YPG are doing to Syrian Christians in Northeast Syria. The Kurdish-YPG have attempted to assassinate, beat-up Christian leaders in Syria who speak out.
1:40 PM · Dec 9, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone


20 posted on 12/09/2018 8:35:40 PM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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