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Nearly 3,000 Votes Disappeared From Florida’s Recount. That’s Not Supposed to Happen
The New York Times ^ | 16 Nov 2018 | Frances Robles

Posted on 11/17/2018 10:36:40 AM PST by Theoria

Nearly 3,000 votes effectively disappeared during the machine recount of Florida’s midterm races, according to election records, calling into question whether officials relied on a flawed process to settle the outcome of three statewide contests.

With extremely narrow gaps separating candidates in the still-undeclared races for both governor and United States Senate, the results of the machine recount of all votes cast in the Nov. 6 election, posted by the Florida secretary of state’s office, showed 900 fewer votes than those reported in the original statewide tally.

The discrepancy was expected to grow by an additional 2,000 votes when updated numbers from Broward County, whose results initially were disqualified because they came in two minutes late, are added to the statewide results on Sunday.

None of the discrepancies would be enough to affect the outcome of the three statewide and three local elections that are still waiting for a winner to be called. But they come as at least three Florida counties — two of them Democratic strongholds whose results could be decisive — have reported problems counting their shares of the more than 8.1 million ballots cast across the state.

In one of the most serious cases, Palm Beach County found “dozens of precincts missing a significant number” of votes during the machine recount, according to the supervisor of elections, Susan Bucher, causing the county to conclude that entire boxes of ballots may not have been counted.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ballot; broward; election; florida
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1 posted on 11/17/2018 10:36:40 AM PST by Theoria
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'“This is a big deal,” said E. John Sebes, founder of Open Source Election Technology, a nonprofit group in San Francisco that promotes accuracy and security in the vote-counting process. “If you have an election margin of 0.21 percent and a variance of 0.12 percent, the variance of your machine count is half the margin you are trying to correct. That’s kooky.”'


2 posted on 11/17/2018 10:37:12 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Out of San Fran,ey?


3 posted on 11/17/2018 10:38:30 AM PST by Leep (we need a Trump like leader for President 2024!)
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To: Theoria

I wonder which party those ballots were cast for?


4 posted on 11/17/2018 10:39:28 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Because during the recount they (the ‘rats perpetrating voter fraud) realized the ballots would be subject to extra scrutiny. Awkward, uncomfortable questions might be asked. Official statements taken. Legal action taken... So I would bet you dollars to donuts the votes that mysteriously disappeared prior to the recount were 100% fraudulent. This was someone cleaning up a mess before it became very public.


5 posted on 11/17/2018 10:40:46 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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It is a odd thing that we don’t have ‘neutral’ parties running elections. Just odd.


6 posted on 11/17/2018 10:42:26 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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"Ms. Bucher blamed an overheated and outdated ballot-scanning machine. But the manufacturer of the high-speed scanner used in Palm Beach said its technicians had witnessed Palm Beach County elections workers, apparently worried that one of the machines was running too fast, jam a paper clip into the scanner’s “enter” button in an effort to slow it down. That, in turn, caused a short circuit that cut off the power, a company spokeswoman said.
7 posted on 11/17/2018 10:42:58 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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What stops them from re-running a stack ballots through the machine again?

Lets say they have a stack of 200 strait D ballots, what stops them from taking that stack and running it through the machine 15 times?

Any sort of serial or encoding that would tell the machine it was a dupe run?

I am just asking, cause I have no idea


8 posted on 11/17/2018 10:43:24 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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Snipes should be making License plates not supervising the counting of ballots


9 posted on 11/17/2018 10:44:07 AM PST by butlerweave
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Hi.

“the variance of your machine count is half the margin you are trying to correct. That’s kooky.”

I have another word for, “kooky.” Voter fraud.

5.56mm


10 posted on 11/17/2018 10:44:18 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Plenty of good lines in the article. No explanations from the ‘officials’ when confronted.


11 posted on 11/17/2018 10:44:20 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

sounds like machine tampering

running too fast? So they can’t find the republican ballots to toss?


12 posted on 11/17/2018 10:44:30 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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I’m thinking...they must have been votes for Rick Scott...

just sayin’

Remember when, before the election, we were hearing of all the absentee ballots coming in Fl that were mainly Republican. The numbers were humongous in our favor.

Wonder what happened to some of them.


13 posted on 11/17/2018 10:47:47 AM PST by Maris Crane
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Well,I guess the NY Slimes doesn't understand that they were last seen in the custody of a Broward County operative of the Rat Party...so they must have been from “red” areas.
14 posted on 11/17/2018 10:49:39 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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Because they never existed outside the mind of the democrats who counted the votes the first time?

"Federal prosecutors reviewing altered election documents tied to Florida Democrats”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/14/federal-prosecutors-reviewing-altered-election-documents-tied-to-florida-democrats-695299

By Matt Dixon 11/14/2018

The concerns, which the department says can be tied to the Florida Democratic Party, center around date changes on forms used to fix vote-by-mail ballots sent with incorrect or missing information.

Known as “cure affidavits,” those documents used to fix mail ballots were due no later than 5 p.m. on Nov. 5 — the day before the election. But affidavits released on Tuesday by the DOS show that documents from four different counties said the ballots could be returned by 5 p.m. on Thursday, which is not accurate.

Audio of a Florida Democratic Party caller leaving a voicemail message asking a Palm Beach County voter to fix their vote by mail ballot after Election Day, which is not allowed, was also sent to POLITICO separately. It was not part of the information turned over to federal prosecutors.

Among the counties in question is Broward, which emerged as the epicenter of controversy as three statewide races and three local legislative races went into recounts following the Nov. 6 elections. Republicans have pointed to embattled Broward Elections chief Brenda Snipes' record of past election gaffes in arguing that the largely Democratic country is tilted against them — perhaps fraudulently so.


15 posted on 11/17/2018 10:53:07 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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We will be much better off if we bring in Iranians Venezuelans communist Chinese or some good old- fashioned Banana Republic Tin- Pot Dictators to run Florida elections for us.


16 posted on 11/17/2018 10:54:34 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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They were either valid republican votes or fake dem votes that had to be hidden before the inspectors saw them.


17 posted on 11/17/2018 10:56:18 AM PST by Boomer (The only good leftists are those who have 'left us' for another country)
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Read in a comment on Daily Caller the probable reason. The commenter said those mysterious rental trucks seen and observers chased away from were full of Republican ballots to be disposed of. Mission accomplished, there.

However, forceful observation due to judicial orders made it impossible for Snipes to replace them all with Democrat ballots. Knowing the count would be short, Snipes pretended to miss the deadline by two minutes. That reduced the missing ballot count down to just 3,000. It makes sense based on what we saw.
18 posted on 11/17/2018 10:56:39 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: butlerweave

One job, ONE JOB, and no matter how simple or well-laid-out the job would be, some people could fritz it up.

Brenda Snipes would do as badly at making licence plates as tallying and safeguarding ballots.

Just not a task-orientated person.


19 posted on 11/17/2018 11:05:49 AM PST by alloysteel (To try and fail, that is glorious. To never try at all, that is ignominy, far worse than failure.)
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In one of the most serious cases, Palm Beach County found “dozens of precincts missing a significant number” of votes during the machine recount, according to the supervisor of elections, Susan Bucher, causing the county to conclude that entire boxes of ballots may not have been counted.
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I’d love to be the SOE ,, such a simple and high paying position ,, the laws are simple and easy to comply with if you’re honest and you have a decent budget to get the job done right. I’m in Orlando and avoid south FL like the plague because the blue team runs everything and the “blue” attitude pervades everything.


20 posted on 11/17/2018 11:06:46 AM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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