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Oct 2: The American Civil War, Part II
The New York TImes ^ | Oct 2, 2018 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 11/13/2018 1:42:13 PM PST by Jack Black

The nation is deeply divided, with each side seeing the other as “the enemy.”

I began my journalism career covering a civil war in Lebanon. I never thought I’d end my career covering a civil war in America.

We may not be there yet, but if we don’t turn around now, we will surely get where we’re going — which was best described by Senator Jeff Flake on Monday: “Tribalism is ruining us. It is tearing our country apart. It is no way for sane adults to act.”

Sure, we’ve experienced bouts of intense social strife since the American Civil War of 1861. I grew up with the assassination of Martin Luther King and raging street battles over civil rights and Vietnam. And yet this moment feels worse — much less violent, blessedly, but much more broadly divisive. There is a deep breakdown happening between us, between us and our institutions and between us and our president.

We can’t find common ground on which to respectfully disagree; the other side is “the enemy.” We shout at each other on television, unfollow each other on Facebook and fire verbal mortars at each other on Twitter — and now everyone is on the digital battlefield, not just politicians.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar2; cwii; cwiiping; friedman; liberalagenda; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; secondcivilwar; thomasfriedman
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I missed this when ti came out a month ago, not being a regular Times reader. Friedman is sort of the "King of the Obvious", he got rich writing about globalization, and he's still a big fan of the "flat Earth" as he described it, I am sure.

So this is a sort of signpost. it's not just the keenly attuned who are sensing it, it's the run-of-the-mill types who feel the chill in the air, too.

1 posted on 11/13/2018 1:42:13 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Bttt.

5.56mm


2 posted on 11/13/2018 1:49:57 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Jack Black

The man is an idiot.
Anyone quoting Jeff Flake has confirmed that he is an idiot.
Still even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


3 posted on 11/13/2018 1:50:12 PM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: Jack Black

They sense it because they’re still the elected minority party. If they regain the WH and the Senate, such talk will be considered treasonous again.


4 posted on 11/13/2018 1:51:07 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: Jack Black

The NYT played a major role in getting us here.


5 posted on 11/13/2018 1:51:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jack Black
Across the land, before dinner parties or block parties, the refrain “I hope none of them will be there” is uttered with increasing frequency, referring no longer to people of another race or religion — bad enough — but to people from a different political party.

Isn't reasonable discrimination on the basis of political beliefs willingly undertaken sensible? Is it really worse than discrimination on the basis of race or religion.
6 posted on 11/13/2018 1:52:08 PM PST by Borges
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If it is a civil war, the first shots were fired by James Hodgekinson.


7 posted on 11/13/2018 1:52:41 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Politically Correct

The silver lining to the new Congress getting seated is that Jeff Flake will be unseated and irrelevant again.


8 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:15 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: Jack Black
Liberal elite democrats have been pushing tribalism for decades... every identity group with a grudge and hatred of traditional Americans...

Its the democrat ‘calling card’...

What this New York Times jerkoff is worried about is that our side is going to do the same... is doing the same... and that jerk doesn't want HIS side hurt. Well, ‘game on’ Friedman... AND I want new 'hate crimes' to be on the books when YOU libs trash traditional Americans...

9 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:20 PM PST by GOPJ (Watch this for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Jack Black

BS article.

Here’s the Cliff’s Notes summary:

People don’t get along anymore and it’s the Republicans fault!


10 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:22 PM PST by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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Even for a hack like Friedman this paragraph is amazing:

It would be easy to blame both sides equally for this shift, noted Ornstein, but it is just not true. After the end of the Cold War, he said, “tribal politics were introduced by Newt Gingrich when he came to Congress 40 years ago,” and then perfected by Mitch McConnell during the Barack Obama presidency, when McConnell declared his intention to use his G.O.P. Senate caucus to make Obama fail as a strategy for getting Republicans back in power.

Yes, only the truly enlightened, such a Friedman, can discern that the left has had no part in this division.

11 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:24 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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Dear Mr. Friedman,

Aggressive Bolshevism is the cause of the current strife. Bolshevism which the New York Times newspaper largely supports.

That Bolshevism has pushed the American people before it for many decades, and it should come as no surprise that the result is a spring-like compression which has stored energy pending the release of its rebound.

Want an end to the tensions? Convince the multitude of Bolsheviks in academia to leave our schools and universities.

Want an end to the tensions? Convince the multitude of Bolsheviks in the so-called “news” media to quit their positions as anti-American propogandists and find honest jobs.

Want an end to the tensions? Shut off the flow of money from Bolshevik “philanthropists” to anti-American “activists” and their front groups.


12 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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And he blames it all on Republicans. He’s still a douche bag.


13 posted on 11/13/2018 1:53:59 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Jack Black

This guy is wrong. Yes, we are headed toward a new civil war, but it is not Repubs vs Dems. It is real Americans who believe in the Constitution against the Dems, RHINOs, Deep State, corrupt Leftist Judges, Black anti-Americans, Leftist media and Leftist academia. It is much deeper and involved than this idiot Friedman thinks.


14 posted on 11/13/2018 1:54:06 PM PST by falcon99
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To: Jack Black

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuh...........................

Try: TREASONUS AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR AND LAW-BREAKING BY THE LEFT.


15 posted on 11/13/2018 1:55:20 PM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: falcon99

“Yes, we are headed toward a new civil war, but it is not Repubs vs Dems. It is real Americans who believe in the Constitution against the Dems, RHINOs, Deep State, corrupt Leftist Judges, Black anti-Americans, Leftist media and Leftist academia.”

In other words, Republicans versus Democrats . . .


16 posted on 11/13/2018 1:56:12 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Jack Black

But Tommie Boy, the only way there will be a civil war is if someone stands in the way of someone else seceding. Are you planning to do that? Sure sounds like it to me.

If you don’t want a war, don’t make a war.


17 posted on 11/13/2018 1:59:10 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Nope. Constitutionalists versus the Uniparty.


18 posted on 11/13/2018 2:00:44 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Citizens vs the Cheap Labor Express and their toadies.


19 posted on 11/13/2018 2:08:37 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jack Black

Oh hogwash - they’ve been trying to start a civil war for 50 years. That is the whole idea of socialism, you need to completely destroy the current government and in the chaos that follows, simply fill in the vacuum with socialism/communism. So far the only people fighting are Soros’ goons, and they aren’t good enough at it to attract opponents.


20 posted on 11/13/2018 2:10:40 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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