Black Man Precludes Casualties in Bar Shootout—Only to be Shot and Killed by Police

The Root ^ | 2018-11-12 | Natalie Degraffinried

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

So what do you think REALLY happened? Was this guy not really a security guard? Was he the real culprit at the bar? Are all the witnesses lying or is the media manufacturing them? Or is it all just unknowable and we should always assume all police shoots are good shoots?

[zeugma]

Nice to see that we’ve accurately identified yet another bozo who thinks cops can kill anyone they want without even bothering to assess a situation. Thanks for making it easy for us.

[zeestephen]

Re: “So what do you think REALLY happened?”

I have no idea what happened - and neither do you.

Every “fact” you two claim to know comes from two sources:

(1) “The Root,” which is a radical Black Nationalist online magazine.

(2) “WGN News,” which reported what the victim's family and their lawyer said.

If that is your idea of “evidence,” then I have no idea what else to say to you.

[zeugma]

You keep beating that drum. Doesn't change the fact that the surest way to make any bad situation worse is to add a cop to the mix. I say that as someone on a first name basis with most of the cops in my town. I sure as heck know better than to introduce them into a situation where they aren't absolutely necessary. In this particular incident, the place did in fact need to call the police. Unfortunately, it didn't work out quite as they intended.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

So, when CNN reports that the Police Chief of the town the cop works for says, “What we have learned is Jemel Roberson was a brave man who was doing his best to end an active shooter situation at Manny’s Blue Room,” is that just fake news and they totally manufactured that quote?

[zeestephen]

Re: “So, when CNN reports that the Police Chief of the town the cop works for says, “What we have learned is Jemel Roberson was a brave man who was doing his best to end an active shooter situation at Manny’s Blue Room,” is that just fake news and they totally manufactured that quote?”

I responded to a post that was linked to The Root and to WGN News.

I have no idea what CNN or the Police Chief said.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

So, do you think I just made up that quote?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

I mean, you are aware that this story has been reported more widely than those two sources, right?

[zeestephen]

Re: “I mean, you are aware that this story has been reported more widely than those two sources, right?”

The only thing I know about this story is what I read in the posted links - the Black Nationalist “The Root” and the pro-plaintiff WGN News.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Did you know that there's a way to use the internet to search for information from other sources? Because it seems you're more interested in attacking those two sources than in finding out what happened, which you seem to think is utterly unknowable.

Let me ask you this: Do you think this happened at all?

[zeestephen]

Re: “So, do you think I just made up that quote?”

What point are you making here?

I wandered into a Free Republic post where people started attacking me because I said “The Root” and the pro-plaintiff WGN News article were crap news sources - and they are crap news sources.

If you had better sources, you could have saved everybody a lot of time by linking to them in your first post.

A link to the statements by the Police Union and the Police officer's lawyer would also be helpful.

And while your at it, am I still the only guy around here who noticed that the aspiring policeman-security guard who got killed also committed a felony by possessing a firearm without a concealed carry permit or an armed security guard permit?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

And while your at it, am I still the only guy around here who noticed that the aspiring policeman-security guard who got killed also committed a felony by possessing a firearm without a concealed carry permit or an armed security guard permit?

Well, then, I guess he deserved to die.

See, that's the thing. You came onto this thread basically throwing out reasons why the cop was justified in killing this guy.

[GOPJ]

And while your at it, am I still the only guy around here who noticed that the aspiring policeman-security guard who got killed also committed a felony by possessing a firearm without a concealed carry permit or an armed security guard permit?

Good catch.

[YeahBuddy]

Any new news on that heroic security guard that was gunned down by Chicago Police?

[jonascord]

I grew up at Belmont and Austin. I remember the electric busses. Rode the Howard line to U of I. I remember Riverview, as a kid. Went to Wrigley Field with my cigar smoking grandmother. Lived in and around until I was 30. The Old Man used to shoot in police matches at the District 15 range. Remember Bell's, on Manheim, in Franklin Park?

Over the years, I bought two cops, an alderman and a traffic judge. The cops were the most expensive. Do not speak of what you don't know.

[wgmalabama]

Some more details in this slanted article

https://www.al.com/news/2018/12/deaths-of-ej-bradford-jemel-roberson-worry-black-gun-owners.html

Apparently he did have a permit and was dressed in clothing that had SECURITY on it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/us/chicago-area-security-guard-police-shooting/index.html

That article states police did give commands before firing.

Just for consistency sake - I don’t like cops. Nothing can’t be made worse by inviting a low IQ badge with a gun and way too much authority who sole purpose is raising revenue and going home safe even if you don’t. Truth in advertising.

Also I missed this one. I never heard about this shooting.