Posted on 11/08/2018 2:28:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
A mental health crisis team chose not to involuntarily commit Thousand Oaks gunman Ian David Long for mental health evaluation and treatment in April of this year. CBS News reports the Ventura County Sheriff’s Office had numerous encounters with former Marine Ian David Long before he opened fire inside the Borderline Bar & Grill Wednesday night. Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said they went to Long’s residence in April in response to a disturbance call. The Los Angeles Times reports that who went to Long’s house in April noted he was “irate and acting irrationally.”
A “mental health crisis team was called at that time and concluded that Long did not need to be taken into custody.” The mental health team had the option to issue an order to have Long “held for up to 72 hours” if they recognized him as a threat to himself or others.
Breitbart News reported that Long killed 12 innocents Wednesday night, including Sheriff’s Sgt. Ron Helus. He used a legally owned .45 caliber Glock handgun to carry out his attack.
California has Gun Violence Restraining Orders, which are court orders that empower law enforcement to confiscate firearms from persons deemed a threat to themselves or others. The orders are issued after a family member or co-worker testifies to the danger they believe a person poses to himself or others.
Such orders were passed by California the legislature in 2014 and in early 2015 UCLA law professor Adam Winkler warned his fellow gun controllers not to get their hopes up, regarding the law’s effectiveness. Winkler told the National Journal that family members do not often recognize, much less report, a family member’s violent tendencies. Therefore, a Gun Violence Restraining Order is rarely triggered.
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The Mental Health Crisis Team is going to be facing wrongful death suits from 13 families methinks.
If it’s a team issue, then no one is responsible …
If you see something, say something. Then let the officials ignore it.
Sad.
If they had committed him, he couldn’t have shot people. Then they couldn’t use it for their advantage.
Dumbass administrators and psychologists. 11 people died because they couldn’t hold him.
But it’s Trumps fault,, right????????????????????????
Put the Broward County cowards in charge
If there’s a problem
Yo, they’ll solve it
Laws are useless when government bureaucrats don’t enforce them. These state employees should be fired because of gross incompetence. The heart-broken families of this innocent young people should demand it.
“Therefore, a Gun Violence Restraining Order is rarely triggered.”
Not when it’s needed. But increasingly, they will be used for pure gun confiscation. The no-notice seizures have few due process safeguards built in.
Surrender your guns and put your life in the hands of the government. And no one in the bar last night could have lawfully been armed. And the resulting response will be to further punish and oppress legal gun owners. Molon labe.
Committing him for a maximum of 72 hours in April would have prevented him from shooting people in November? Sounds like Maxine Waters math to me.
laws do not work if you ignore them.....
my husband had to take his 90 yro old fathers loaded gun away from him....he carried it , loaded, in his walker.....he had already pulled it and pointed it at a family member thinking he was an intruder.....
it was ugly and disheartening and we had to PAY his father for taking his gun away, with money...
our fear is he would accidentally shoot somebody and/or shoot himself and his wife......
these situations are hard but they must be taken care of....
No man, it’s the NRA’s fault. Please read the script again.
Shrinks are just witchdoctors practicing quackery.
Government bureaucrats are all about putting in their time and staying under the radar until they can collect their fat, bloated pensions.
No, it’s the NRA’s fault.
(See thread right above this one)
The Left doesn’t want to prevent shootings.
They want to use shootings as an excuse to disarm everyone.
Everyone needs to be disarmed because what the Left wants to do to everyone will not be well received.
The Left fears for its own safety once they start doing to everyone.
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