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Grassley, Ryan: You Cannot End Birthright Citizenship by Executive Order
National Review ^ | October 30, 2018 | Mairead McArdle

Posted on 10/30/2018 2:05:00 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Senator Chuck Grassley and House Speaker Paul Ryan objected Tuesday to President Trump’s suggestion that he could end birthright citizenship by executive order.

“I am not a lawyer but it seems to me it would take a constitutional amendment to change that as opposed to an executive order,” Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee told Iowa’s CBS2.

Most legal scholars believe the 14th Amendment to the Constitution provides citizenship to all children born on U.S. soil, regardless of their parents’ legal status.

The Amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

“It seems to me ‘born in the United States’ is pretty simple. ‘Subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ might be a little more debatable by lawyers,” Grassley said.

Ryan agreed, saying “you obviously cannot do that.”

“You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order,” the Republican House speaker told Lexington, Kentucky’s WVLK radio. “We didn’t like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action, and obviously as conservatives we believe in the Constitution.”

Trump said Tuesday that he is planning an executive order that would scrap the right to citizenship of all children of illegal immigrants.

“We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in, has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits,” the president said. “It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

In fact, a few dozen countries, including Canada, Mexico, and many South American nations offer some form of birthright citizenship.

“It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; birthright; grassley; paulryan
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1 posted on 10/30/2018 2:05:00 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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I don’t think I’ve seen even one ‘Rat weigh in against this idea.

And why should they?

They have all the RINO’s moaning and groaning for them.


2 posted on 10/30/2018 2:07:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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“I am not a lawyer but it seems to me it would take a constitutional amendment to change that as opposed to an executive order,” Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee told Iowa’s CBS2.
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Sit down and take a nap, old man. Time for the fighters to take over and get something done.


3 posted on 10/30/2018 2:07:49 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: reaganaut1

He can keep this issue out there by doing this.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 2:08:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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No wonder the country is a mess with GOP “leadership” like that. Of COURSE a President can interpret a Constitutional amendment....which will be challenged in federal court, and either upheld, or reinterpreted.

The status of illegal aliens kids born here, as far as I know, not been tested in court—only that of legal residents.


5 posted on 10/30/2018 2:08:54 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: Rusty0604

President Trump will force them to do something and get the issue decided.


6 posted on 10/30/2018 2:09:35 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: reaganaut1

How do either of these guys know if it can’t be done? They haven’t tried it. They have to be dragged kicking and whining to the table when ever anything is to be done.


7 posted on 10/30/2018 2:09:49 PM PDT by Parmy
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The question is, what does "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean. I don't know the answer to that.
8 posted on 10/30/2018 2:10:39 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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It’s a matter of interpreting the citizenship clause of 14th amendment and it’s about time it was sorted out by the courts frankly.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 2:10:47 PM PDT by Borges
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We didn’t like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action


What would that be you jackass? DACA?.........

10 posted on 10/30/2018 2:11:25 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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What?

Absolutely not a Constitutional Amendment

No.

It may require legislation, but the Constitution says NOTHING about birthright citizenship that I know of. (called “Jus soli”, and only we and Canada have it among developed countries)

Am I wrong on this?


11 posted on 10/30/2018 2:11:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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Neither Grassley nor Ryan will decide this issue. It will undoubtedly be appealed to the judiciary, probably up to the SCOTUS. The originalist bent of the new justices will reinforce the chances of Trump’s position being affirmed.
12 posted on 10/30/2018 2:11:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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Not lawyers. They should shut up.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 2:11:58 PM PDT by myerson
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LOL, I presume you were referring to Grassley and Ryan!!!

I’m with you there!


14 posted on 10/30/2018 2:13:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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Take it to the Court.


15 posted on 10/30/2018 2:15:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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Take it to the Court.


16 posted on 10/30/2018 2:15:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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But you can do it by judicial fiat, which is how it happened in the first place.


17 posted on 10/30/2018 2:15:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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We all know Puke Ryan is useless but why is Chuck Grassely weighing in? A pretty reporter-ette asked him?

All I gotta say is zip your lips! Is this too much to ask? What is it with these chatty Cathy doll Republicans?


18 posted on 10/30/2018 2:16:23 PM PDT by dennisw
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Tip to POTUS TRUMP:
Once this issue is once again more in line with our CONSTITUTIOHN, let’s begin on exactly what the definition of NBC might be.

STANDING right beside you, Mr. President. The left has brainwashed persons for years with this poppycock. No surprise, that’s what the left does, lie and lie more, until it’s fact. Think of Dickie Durbin front and center, inviting all illegals to come in and they, too, might be fortunate enough to be PRESIDENT of the USA one day. Deranged or dementia?


19 posted on 10/30/2018 2:16:46 PM PDT by V K Lee ("VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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our elected idiots need to do some studying. the author of the 14th even said it does NOT apply the way it’s being applied.

dumbasses.


20 posted on 10/30/2018 2:16:59 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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