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Calling Mohammed a Pedophile Not Covered by Free Speech, European Court Rules
CNS News ^ | October 26, 2018 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/26/2018 4:29:52 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) – Europe’s top human rights court has ruled that comments about Mohammed having pedophilic tendencies are not covered by the right to freedom of expression, agreeing with the assessment of courts in Austria that the remarks constituted “an abusive attack on the Prophet of Islam which could stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace.”

A seven-judge European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) panel in Strasbourg concluded that the Austrian courts had “carefully balanced the applicant’s right to freedom of expression with the rights of others to have their religious feelings protected, and to have religious peace preserved in Austrian society.”

Thursday’s decision came nine years after Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, an Austrian political scientist and activist, held a seminar in Vienna where among things she criticized the treatment of women in Islam. The topic of Mohammed’s marriage to Aisha, the youngest of his dozen wives and concubines, came up.

According to Islamic texts, the 7th century Arabian who founded Islam was betrothed to Aisha when she was six, and the marriage was consummated when she was nine.

The court record quotes Sabaditsch-Wolff as having said that Mohammed “liked to do it with children,” (other translations of the German comment render it “had a thing for little girls”) and saying, “A 56-year-old and a six-year-old? … What do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?”

In 2011, Sabaditsch-Wolff was convicted under Austria’s penal code for “denigrating the teachings of a legally recognized religion” and fined 480 euros (about $546), plus costs. She was acquitted on a charge of incitement.

Sabaditsch-Wolff appealed the decision, but a higher court in Austria upheld it.

In June 2012 the case was lodged with the ECHR, which hears allegations of breaches of the European Convention on Human Rights. Sabaditsch-Wolff complained her freedom of expression rights under the convention had been violated.

She said the Austrian courts had failed to address the substance of the statements in question, in the light of her right to freedom of expression.

If they had done so, Sabaditsch-Wolff argued, they would have qualified that as value judgments based on facts, rather than as mere value judgments.

The ECHR judges disagreed.

They said although people must tolerate the denial by others of their religious beliefs, in cases where comments are “likely to incite religious intolerance” a state might legitimately consider them to be “incompatible with respect for the freedom of thought, conscience and religion and take proportionate restrictive measures.”

The judges also said the subject matter “was of a particularly sensitive nature,” and that the authorities in Austria were “in a better position to evaluate which statements were likely to disturb the religious peace in their country.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; echr; eu; eucourtofhumanrights; eurabia; europe; europeanmuslims; eussr; hijrah; islam; jihadineurope; mahomet; mohammed; pedophilia; rop; sabaditschwolff; speechcodes
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Brilliant!


21 posted on 10/26/2018 4:56:35 AM PDT by glock rocks (... so much win!)
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To: Rebelbase
Whenever I see that photo, the first thought I have is that I'll bet that guy's breath can stop a speeding locomotive or cause everyone in a subway car to get off at the next stop and wait for another train.
22 posted on 10/26/2018 4:58:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Mr. Mojo

Fine, don’t call that murderius brigand a pedophile - just mention that he screwed a 9-year-old girl, and ask what we would call such a person today? Let the offended arsehole utter the verboten word. They want to play stupid word games, let them - there are easy ways around that.


23 posted on 10/26/2018 4:58:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Translation:

We are scared that ruling that free speech means free speech will mean things start blowing up.

Also - we really should have thought more about bringing in thousands of them.


24 posted on 10/26/2018 5:05:32 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: Skywise

-—Every atheist in the EU then is guilty of this law like Richard Dawkins.-—

Right. I’m a religious critic, and I certainly am aware that Dawkins, Sam Harris and others slam Islam on a regular basis.

Nobody’s “feelings” should be protected from critical or abusive speech by any government. That’s the road to authoritarianism.

Anyone still think the EU is a good idea? It’s fascistic, slippery-slope, globalist insanity.


25 posted on 10/26/2018 5:06:50 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is why we created America, though the liberal idiots don’t understand that. I’d say being told what “isn’t covered” by free speech is worth a revolution.


26 posted on 10/26/2018 5:07:52 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: bramps

There were seven fools is black robes and powdered wigs


27 posted on 10/26/2018 5:07:56 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: bramps

SIR! To be fair he didn’t boink her until she was 9!

Whatta guy...


28 posted on 10/26/2018 5:08:44 AM PDT by null and void (Don't argue with the keyboard warriors. They know their delusions better than you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

‘It is a declaration that Islam it too brittle—too fragile—to withstand insults.’

very similar to American females...


29 posted on 10/26/2018 5:09:02 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: PIF

“an abusive attack on the Prophet of Islam which could stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace.”

In other words, they don’t want to get the Haji’s all riled up and upset the status quo.


30 posted on 10/26/2018 5:09:38 AM PDT by Garvin (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

How about “lying homicidal baby raper”?


31 posted on 10/26/2018 5:11:04 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Screw that panel, and the pedophile Mooohammed.


32 posted on 10/26/2018 5:14:06 AM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

So, calling a turd a turd, and a thief a thief, and a pig a pig is okay; but calling a pedophile a pedophile is illegal?


33 posted on 10/26/2018 5:14:31 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is the final nail in the take over of Europe.


34 posted on 10/26/2018 5:15:41 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Has this penal code been used to convict those who denigrate Christianity? Somehow I doubt it.

That was my first question too.

35 posted on 10/26/2018 5:17:22 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Garvin

Afraid you missed my point - Islam is anything but peaceful - so saying something ‘deemed’ capable of threatening religions peace of Islam is the height of irony


36 posted on 10/26/2018 5:17:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Mr. Mojo

You know who rules you. It is those who you are forbidden to criticize.

Europe has decided that Mohammed is the boss.

So this means, for muslims, that pedophilia and killing unbelievers are protected religious acts.

Expect more terrorism.


37 posted on 10/26/2018 5:17:28 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Mr. Mojo
To the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR):

MOHAMMAD IS A PEDOPHILE!

MOHAMMED IS A PEDOPHILE!

MOHAMMED IS A PEDOPHILE!

MOHAMMED IS A PEDOPHILE!

Come get me you pansy Euro-Weenies! I dare you!

38 posted on 10/26/2018 5:17:51 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Meanwhile....

EU mechanism for Iran trade to be symbolically ready on Nov. 4: diplomats

39 posted on 10/26/2018 5:18:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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Islam is a war plan


40 posted on 10/26/2018 5:19:41 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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