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Opinion On Khashoggi, the U.S. Media Is Falling for Turkey’s Conspiracist State-run Media
HAARETZ ^ | (10-24-18) 24.10.2018 15:53 Updated: 3:54 PM | Louis Fishman

Posted on 10/24/2018 1:19:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

In its breathless hunt for grisly, sensational details, the Western media is embracing evidence-free, state-curated ‘scoops’ from the same sources that spread lies and hate towards Turkey’s own journalists and political dissidents


(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; khashoggi; media; turkey
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Good Article.

Turkish Propaganda with "facts" that keep changing reminds us we are not much better here in the US with CNN, MSNBC and even Fox News on this murder. (I have my own thoughts about why Fox is)

No body found yet.

But Israel "get's it" when it come to Turk agenda.

1 posted on 10/24/2018 1:19:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Why would anyone believe anything that comes out of Erdogan’s mouth ,he’s done much worst


2 posted on 10/24/2018 1:22:32 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Texas Fossil

Where’s the tape? Turkey provided so much detail, where is it?


3 posted on 10/24/2018 1:23:15 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: Texas Fossil
Khashoggi must have really pissed off some important Saudis. As they sometimes say at murder scenes (at least on TV), there was massive overkill. It was personal in some way.

A wink and nod appointment as a columnist to the WaPo, and an occasional critical column isn't the cause of this.

4 posted on 10/24/2018 1:24:18 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Texas Fossil
Saudi Arabia is far more important...and far more credible...than the pig fornicators running Turkey these days.
5 posted on 10/24/2018 1:25:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: Texas Fossil
The Saudi consulate grounds are sovereign Saudi territory so extradition to Turkey just won't happen.
6 posted on 10/24/2018 1:29:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: Texas Fossil

The things they’ve been parrotting from Erodogan are so damn laughable.


7 posted on 10/24/2018 1:32:28 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Texas Fossil

Turks and Saudis, which one to believe?

How about neither.


8 posted on 10/24/2018 1:33:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Jailed and wanted Journalists in Turkey- Updated List
https://stockholmcf.org/updated-list/

Any “journalist” walking around in Turkey is not a journalist, based on the above list and a talk I heard in the last 2 years from one of the guys on that list, after he’d made it out of Turkey with his life and his family. That guy is a real journalist.

One of the prime covers for intelligence operatives is “journalist”. Khashoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood propagandist, former spokesmen for the Saudi royal family before MbS turned that world on its head (a good thing in my estimation), and likely an MB operative as well. Our Left is trying to act as if he’s Edward R. Murrow, which is complete BS and only being done because they’re trying to create ways to get at Trump.

Was the whole thing really questionable? Sure.

Was it a really incompetent act by the Saudis? Sure, but then it is the Saudis. Go talk to someone who has trained them.

Should we strongly admonish the Saudis, privately? Sure.

Should we make a big deal out of it, publicly? No.

Best analysis I’ve seen of the whole thing:

Why Is Khashoggi Being Made The Defining Issue Of U.S. Foreign Policy?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3698208/posts


10 posted on 10/24/2018 1:50:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: gravenstien

Possibly. CNN Turkey is pure Propaganda. CNN US owns CNN Turkey.

However, I think Qatar and Turkey and Iran would like to divide the Anti-ISIS Coalition. This is effort to divide the US from Saudi Arabia.

In Fox’s case it is about a major stockholder that has a dog in the fight.

Yes, They all know they are lying to US.


11 posted on 10/24/2018 1:51:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dfwgator
In this case, I believe the Saudi’s before the Turks under Erdogan.

Haaretz has it figured out that Turkey has their own agenda behind releasing false info about Khashoggi's murder.

12 posted on 10/24/2018 2:06:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: major-pelham

Absolutely. State Propaganda supporting a hidden agenda.


13 posted on 10/24/2018 2:06:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Gay State Conservative
Bump!

And the young prince, MBS, has very powerful Royal Family member enemies. Serious court maneuvering.

14 posted on 10/24/2018 2:12:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Gay State Conservative

This is largely a Saudi internal matter. Especially if there is no evidence of Khashoggi’s murder. It is possible that all this stuff we see as news about this, is totally bogus.


15 posted on 10/24/2018 2:14:13 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Correct.


16 posted on 10/24/2018 2:14:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: jimmygrace

They have not released them. My guess is there are none. Other news sources are echoing this now.


17 posted on 10/24/2018 2:18:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: butlerweave

Yes, much much worse.

Like Massacres and cultural genocide with zero remorse.

Murder, theft, protecting ISIS and hundreds of other evil things.


18 posted on 10/24/2018 2:19:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

The far left American media isn’t “falling for it”. It’s using a narrative it knows is dubious in order to strike at Trump. It’s no different from the Russia narrative.


19 posted on 10/24/2018 2:19:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Correct it is about the Globalist Agenda.

But in the case of Khaskoggi, it is about those who support other powerful Saudi family members.


20 posted on 10/24/2018 2:27:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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