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Bipartisan Chorus Calls for Punishing Saudis as Trump Accuses Them of ‘Deception’
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2018 | Mark Landler and Sheryl Gay Stolberg

Posted on 10/22/2018 5:43:51 AM PDT by reaganaut1

WASHINGTON — Members of Congress from both parties made clear on Sunday that they wanted to see Saudi Arabia punished for the killing of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, as President Trump shifted his tone again on the issue and joined the lawmakers in expressing doubt about the Saudi government’s account of the death.

“Obviously, there’s been deception and there’s been lies,” Mr. Trump said in a telephone interview late Saturday with The Washington Post. “Their stories are all over the place.”

The president’s response to the Saudi accounts has likewise changed from day to day. Speaking to The New York Times on Thursday, Mr. Trump said he was confident in the intelligence reports about the episode, which paint a strong, if circumstantial, case that Mr. Khashoggi’s killing was ordered by the Saudi royal court.

On Friday evening, after the Saudis, more than two weeks after Mr. Khashoggi’s death, said he had been accidentally killed during a fistfight with Saudi operatives in Istanbul, Mr. Trump was asked whether he found it credible. “I do,” he said.

Lawmakers, several of whom had been briefed on the American intelligence, immediately rejected the Saudi account as lacking credibility. Allies of Mr. Trump like Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Representative Peter T. King of New York expressed some of the most scathing criticism.

In his interview with The Post, Mr. Trump reiterated his view that Saudi Arabia is an important ally of the United States, and praised Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as a strong leader “who can keep things under check.” He added, “I mean that in a positive way.”

Mr. Trump said he did not know if Prince Mohammed had ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: erdogan; jamalkhashoggi; khashoggi; kurdistan; muslimbrotherhood; putinsbuttboys; receptayyiperdogan; saudiarabia; turkey; whataretheirfrnicks
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1 posted on 10/22/2018 5:43:51 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

From the Times; what can you expect?


2 posted on 10/22/2018 5:45:09 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight; reaganaut1

I keep asking myself, “why would the Crown Prince be so sloppy with an execution?”

Doesn’t compute with me ...


3 posted on 10/22/2018 5:48:04 AM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'S WAY IS THE WINNING WAY!)
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To: reaganaut1

It really doesn’t matter what the Saudi government does. If it falls the country will convulse in Muslim revolutionary madness that will make the French revolution look civilized. The end result will be decades of increased terror. We need to tread lightly and not create another situation like allowing the Shah of Iran to fall. What idiocy that was.


4 posted on 10/22/2018 5:48:58 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: reaganaut1

I’ll believe the “bipartisan chorus” when they call for punishing Iran, first.


5 posted on 10/22/2018 5:51:03 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: reaganaut1

Muslim countries killing their own citizens (who have ties to terrorists) inside other Muslim countries.

This shouldn’t even be news.


6 posted on 10/22/2018 5:51:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: reaganaut1

Can we think about refusing to quote the New York Slimes?


7 posted on 10/22/2018 5:52:21 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: reaganaut1

No one is listening. Fiddle harder.


8 posted on 10/22/2018 5:55:25 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: reaganaut1

The reality is that whoever controls Arabian oil must sell it at market prices or the region will starve and devolve into economic and political chaos. The US, if its leaders and politicians were not so intertwined with the Saudis should have disengaged from them shortly after 9/11. They can never be trusted. Their bribing and “favorable” business deals to politicians has resulted in the American consumer paying much higher prices for oil and an immense transfer of wealth to these vile characters. Hopefully Trump will use the opportunity to fundamentally realign US policy.


9 posted on 10/22/2018 5:55:37 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: onyx

The Prince wasn’t, his in-bred minions were...


10 posted on 10/22/2018 5:59:22 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: reaganaut1
Saudi Arabia is far too important to us..and to the West...to pi$$ them off,or weaken them,in any serious way.Yet it's important for DJT to defuse this artificial outrage.

So I think that DJT should contact the Saudi King and agree on some kind of sham "punishment" that can be announced to great fanfare.

11 posted on 10/22/2018 6:00:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: yldstrk

JAMAL KHASHOGGI: THE MEDIA FIGHTS FOR A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PAL OF OSAMA BIN LADEN

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3697300/posts

Frontpage Magazine:

In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood.

[snip]

Kashoggi’s family into some nasty organized crime:

“Add on that Adnon khasoggi, jamals uncle is a major smuggler smuggling everything from drugs to weapons to humans especially kids under 16 in harms way...” — rodguy911

rodguy911’s research:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3697300/posts?page=85#85

~~~~~~~~~~~

Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...


12 posted on 10/22/2018 6:00:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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This is about the clearest case of the Progressive media (NYTs, Washington Post, AP) attempting to drive U.S. policy that we have seen recently.

The WaPo gave this Saudi activist a platform to campaign against the Saudi government. Then the Saudi Arabian government, a monarchy, reacted.

The Media are now using that reaction to attempt to get both governments to do their will.

13 posted on 10/22/2018 6:00:54 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SunkenCiv; rodguy911

I already posted the usual here.

The media stepped in another cow paddy.

SOP.


14 posted on 10/22/2018 6:01:32 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

[Muslim countries killing their own citizens (who have ties to terrorists) inside other Muslim countries.

This shouldn’t even be news.]

It is when the word “journalist” is used. This is the ONLY reason this is making news.


15 posted on 10/22/2018 6:02:53 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: marktwain

As usual, they are proud to be on the wrong side.

Accused Trump of launching a ‘whispering’ campaign.

Who is whispering?

Trump and Hannity are being judicious and cautious about reporting. Kicking the tires. No harm in that.


16 posted on 10/22/2018 6:04:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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To: headstamp 2

They are trying to make their scandal Trump’s scandal.

And failing as usual.


17 posted on 10/22/2018 6:05:39 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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To: reaganaut1

Liberals and Deep Staters are more distraught over the fate of one Muslim Brotherhood operative than with the lives
of the many thousands of American citizens brutalized, injured, raped and killed at the hands of illegal aliens.


18 posted on 10/22/2018 6:09:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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To: reaganaut1

The guy was a friend of Osama Binladdin family. Ok, he was a good friend of the Osama Binladdin family that enjoyed target practice and posing with AK-47’s and RPG’s along with the Osama Binladdin family... but he was a reporter for the post, and had a residence in the US... not a citizenship, but a US residential address, like any foreign terrorists in waiting have. But he was a reporter for the post that didn’t write much, unless being interviewed by other reporters counts.


19 posted on 10/22/2018 6:15:14 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: marktwain

This really has nothing to do with “the media.” One of the worst-kept secrets in Washington is that the WP is nothing more than a CIA front.


20 posted on 10/22/2018 6:17:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will)
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