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EU smacks internet in the face with link tax and upload filter laws
ZD-NET ^ | September 12, 2018 | By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 09/12/2018 5:10:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Lazamataz

No, the EU does not get to levy taxes on American citizens for merely exercising their first amendment rights in America. Now, they might try to amend international treaties to allow it, but doubt Trump or the American citizens will go for it. There will be no EU tax on American citizens. They might try some fancy international copyright shenanigans or tariffs maybe, but that would also require amending treaties. Obama and the globalist democrats would go for it in a UN minute, but President Trump will lead the nation in the defense of our constitution and national sovereignty. Foreign governments will not nullify our first amendment. I can see Trump pulling out of both NATO and the UN and any other world government bodies that try to interfere with our liberty! And treaties ripped to shreds! You want our constitutional rights? Come and take them!


41 posted on 09/12/2018 6:15:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Love ya bro. You have the spirit I need to hear. I’d follow you anywhere.


42 posted on 09/12/2018 6:16:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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To: bigbob

There are a few security risks but no more than what we have now with this net. Run it in a Linux virtual machine with a VPN and “no script” turned on in the TOR browser and you are good to go.


43 posted on 09/12/2018 6:38:52 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Lazamataz

I’m a little bit worried.

For example, does the German publishing house Der Spiegel have a legal presence in the US? What about the UK Daily Mail or the Guardian? The French concern AFP?

If they have a legal presence, say copyrights here, couldn’t they sue here?

They could do this regardless of this proposed EU law, but would they turn to a American legal recourse once they sewed things up in Totalitarian Land?


44 posted on 09/12/2018 7:08:23 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Vote GOP this November. Take two friends to vote with you!)
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To: Openurmind

That percentage is not remotely possible.


45 posted on 09/12/2018 7:14:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Openurmind; SkyDancer
To correct Openurmind:

”We've been working on methods to improve our calculations, but with our current methodology, we estimate that about 30,000 hidden services announce themselves to the Tor network every day, using about 5 terabytes of data daily,” Kadianakis wrote. “We also found that hidden service traffic is about 3.4 percent of total Tor traffic, which means that, at least according to our early calculations, 96.6 percent of Tor traffic is *not* hidden services.”

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9ak8av/most-tor-traffic-isnt-going-to-the-dark-web-data-suggests

46 posted on 09/12/2018 7:21:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Jim, yes the EU has the resources to pursue shaking down money to prop up their socialist failing states.

1. The USA and EU countries are mutial Copyright treaty members, such as the Berne published works treaty:

https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ38a.pdf

2. EU - US Copyright violations have been prosecuted under current treaty agreements.

https://www.lib.purdue.edu/uco/CopyrightBasics/penalties.html

Copyright Infringement Penalties

Copyright infringement is the act of violating any of a copyright owner’s exclusive rights granted by the federal Copyright Act. (and bound by international copyright treaties, as well)

There are three elements that must be in place in order for the infringement to occur.

The copyright holder must have a valid copyright.

The person who is allegedly infringing must have access to the copyrighted work.

The duplication of the copyrighted work must be outside the exceptions.

The legal penalties for copyright infringement are:

Infringer pays the actual dollar amount of damages and profits.

The law provides a range from $200 to $150,000 for each work infringed.

Infringer pays for all attorneys fees and court costs.

The Court can issue an injunction to stop the infringing acts.

The Court can impound the illegal works.

The infringer can go to jail.


47 posted on 09/12/2018 7:22:21 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: ConservativeMind

https://darkwebnews.com/deep-web/


48 posted on 09/12/2018 7:22:34 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

Yeah, that’s grossly wrong.


49 posted on 09/12/2018 7:24:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Copyright is not a tax. And there is a fair use exemption in the law.


50 posted on 09/12/2018 7:30:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, this just in before the internet censor door closes.

FU EU & all your UNelected & UN elected LOSERS !


51 posted on 09/12/2018 7:42:15 PM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: ConservativeMind

If it’s not indexed it is the deep web. I was wrong though... Only 4% is indexed not 10%. I was being generous. Every estimate you find will say the same thing. Seriously... It’s huge and we actually use just a small part of it that is indexed by search engines.


52 posted on 09/12/2018 8:01:47 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: ConservativeMind

Oh I see, you somehow mistook what I said... I said nothing about “hidden services” at all, that is a different category altogether. I was talking about the deep web as a whole. Everything that is not indexed.


53 posted on 09/12/2018 8:07:26 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: ConservativeMind

I didn’t say anything about “hidden services”, different topic. I was referring to the whole of the deepweb which is everything that is not indexed. It is estimated that only 4% is currently actually indexed by Google, Bing, Etc.


54 posted on 09/12/2018 8:11:57 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind
“The dark web is where all the elicit stuff is within the TOR deep web net.

Something interesting is that the internet we use now is only about 10% of the web. Tor is the balance.”

Genius, you are saying that 90% of the internet is what TOR is accessing. You are full of it. The dark web is extremely small in comparison and of the dark web, less than 5% represents what TOR is used to access.

The deep web is not accessible by TOR any more than normal routes.

The article you posted blows your argument out of the water. Get a clue before you talk.

55 posted on 09/12/2018 8:40:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Lazamataz

Extraterritoriality.

Good luck collecting taxes on Americans posting on the internet in America, Yurps.


56 posted on 09/12/2018 9:56:13 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

The EU just went live with the General Data Protection Regulation or GDPR. If any EU citizen is harmed (according to the regulation) they can have a fine of up to 4% of the total revenue of the company in total, not just EU revenue. I’m sure this will effect how much business is in the EU but in the US the data model is totally in violation of the GDPR.

It is a very odd regulation.

DK


57 posted on 09/13/2018 4:30:14 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: SkyDancer

The Dark Web is also as simple as websites that do not link to Google’s system and can’t be found on a Google search


58 posted on 09/13/2018 4:37:34 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Openurmind

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve always wondered exactly what it was but I’m retired and haven’t kept up with the world of electronics/interwebs/languages. My main source of information in those fields passed away 17 years ago so it seems that’s the year the information highway ended and where my brain began to get less and less “food for thought.”

‘Face


59 posted on 09/13/2018 5:01:03 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you want to see professional athletes who respect our country and our flag, go to a rodeo.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Actually you are right and I stand corrected... I used the wrong terminology in that without realizing it. I used “TOR network” when I meant to use “deep web”. But the TOR network and dark web is where the links to the rest of the unindexed deep web can be found listed. Thank you for taking your courteous time to correct me. Not at all a minor infraction with no real significance, This mistake was a hanging offense.


60 posted on 09/13/2018 6:25:19 AM PDT by Openurmind
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