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The Worst Police Shooting Yet
NRO ^ | September 11, 2018 | David French

Posted on 09/11/2018 2:21:41 PM PDT by billorites

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To: Fido969

At the bottom of one of the protesters signs I noticed something aboht a socialist organization... didn’t know Soros was in town.


121 posted on 09/11/2018 6:37:45 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“so where is her cop privilege?”

She was walking the streets for 72 hours after the shooting.

They allowed her to turn herself in at Kaufman County instead of the Dallas County jail.


122 posted on 09/11/2018 6:39:02 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: deport
Does anyone if the assertion that a red rug was on the floor at the door?

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Attorneys-for-Botham-Jean-Family-Criticize-Affidavit-in-Dallas-Officer-Involved-Shooting-Apartment-492932721.html

From the link:

[Family attorney Lee Merritt] said Jean had a red doormat outside his apartment door. "In fact, to ensure no one mistook his apartment the way this officer is claiming in this case, he went out and bought the biggest, brightest red rug and placed it right there at his doorstep," Merritt said.

123 posted on 09/11/2018 7:04:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

If the Rug is Red, You Must Convict!


124 posted on 09/11/2018 7:18:08 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Did he write a piece on THAT killing?”

It is curiously omitted, because you are right, it is a perfect example of an unjust shooting. Not a very good piece by French.


125 posted on 09/11/2018 7:25:34 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: HollyB

Nope just totally agreeing with you!!!!


126 posted on 09/11/2018 7:28:23 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: animal172

I said that the other day and a guy went nuts on me. Told me I cant have an opinion that goes against media reports.

Im Parole. I play with liars, criminal thinkers and felons all day long. Ive conducted hundreds of criminal interviews and witness examinations. Ive seen a great deal of crime and criminal behavior.

Her story makes little sense and seems to contradict itself. If true, it’s actually going to be quite extraordinary in the number of unfortunate and bizarre coincidences that had to happen to have the same end result. But it really just doesnt add up.

The detectives in my AO agree with me. Everyone thinks it was something common that escalated like a personal issue of some sort between neighbors or lovers.

Bottom line: if I was going to lie about why I killed someone, I might tell the story she is telling. You always trade manslaughter for murder if you can get away with it. The general public doesnt think like that but a cop would. But, hey, what do we know.


127 posted on 09/11/2018 7:36:52 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: cherry

“...when did it become normal to shoot to kill rather than to shoot to maim or injure?” [cherry, post 57]

Shooting to wound instead of kill has no basis in reality. It’s the stuff of police procedurals, detective novels, and “true crime” magazines. The idea that it used to hold true is invalid.

There’s no verifiable distinction between the amount of force (kinetic energy transferred from projectile to target) required to wound, versus the amount required to cause death.

Law enforcement people are trained to aim at center of mass, fire, evaluate the situation, and fire again as needed until the target ceases hostile action. It’s termed “shoot to stop.” Gun-handling training schools impart exactly the same instruction to their paying civilian students.


128 posted on 09/11/2018 7:50:59 PM PDT by schurmann
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To: Blue House Sue

I’ve seen crime shows where a perp is allowed to wander freely for much longer than that. This idea that the police protect other cops who commit crimes is absurd. There is nothing that the police hate more than a cop who gives the police force a bad name.

This woman was probably hired due to some BS quota for female officers and had no business being a cop. Blame the politicians and liberals for that, not the cops.


129 posted on 09/11/2018 8:19:42 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons...according to the purpose of his will Eph 1:5)
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130 posted on 09/11/2018 8:29:26 PM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: MarMema

The family’s lawyer was on CNN saying there was a noise complaint from the apartment below Jean’s about himthe day of the shooting. The apartment directly below him would be the shooter’s


131 posted on 09/11/2018 8:44:11 PM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“I’ve seen crime shows where a perp is allowed to wander freely for much longer than that.”

Excuse me, I’m sorry, but I did not know that you earned your law degree from the Car 54 Where are You School of Law.


132 posted on 09/11/2018 8:59:42 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

Yeah, well, I meant reality shows about real crime such as Dateline, The First 48, etc.

Of course, this incident won’t make the news....

https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/09/11/watch-suspect-shoots-officer-gets-killed/


133 posted on 09/11/2018 9:31:23 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons...according to the purpose of his will Eph 1:5)
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To: mfish13

Are you saying she is not a murderer?


134 posted on 09/11/2018 10:58:02 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Stawp the hammering!)
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To: raiderboy
She wont serve a day. BIG TIME reasonable doubt!! Where are the women’s rights groups?

There is no dispute. She shot an un-armed man in his home. No doubt, reasonable or otherwise.

135 posted on 09/11/2018 11:27:54 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Stawp the hammering!)
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To: pnz1

“””The family’s lawyer was on CNN saying there was a noise complaint from the apartment below Jean’s about himthe day of the shooting. The apartment directly below him would be the shooter’s”””


What you say could explain the real reason she went to his apartment and killed him. He was walking too loudly and it disturbed her.


136 posted on 09/12/2018 4:01:00 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Boogieman
Police know how to write a report to exonerate themselves from any legal liability when things go south, and that’s exactly what this woman’s account sounds like.

Yep. Every phrase is both clearly a "how about this?" from the union lawyer and law enforcement's collective history of knowing what magic words get them off the hook, and not believable on its face. And unless there's surveillance cameras in the hallway, not a bit of it can be independently verified. So I'd have to guess that there aren't any cameras, and they made sure they knew that before they sat down and put on their thinking caps.

When she placed her key in the lock, the door pushed open, the apartment was dark, she saw a “large silhouette” across the room, and she believed she was facing a burglar. She “drew her firearm” and “gave verbal commands,” which she claims Jean ignored.

He lives in an apartment complex in a city. He leaves his door unlocked? AND "ajar"? And it's too dark to see anything in there at 7 PM? Because apparently he's already got all the blinds closed too? But he's walking around there in the dark?

The only thing missing from that verbiage is any talk of "I saw him reaching for a weapon" or "I saw a weapon in his hand." I have to think that that was nixed as not being compatible with "dark apartment" and "silhouette across the room."

137 posted on 09/12/2018 4:08:25 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Gay State Conservative
this isn't much different than a guy getting drunk,starting his car and killing a pedestrian.

Nonsense. A drunk doesn't start his car and think, "now I'm going to kill a pedestrian." That was the only thing on her mind when she pulled her gun. Shoot that guy dead.

138 posted on 09/12/2018 4:11:33 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
I have read that the officer and victim may have had some sort of relationship.

People here really have to stop spreading this crap. If there was anything to this, we'd have seen substantive evidence of it on day one. His mother would have mentioned it. His neighbors would have mentioned it. His friends at work would have mentioned it.

And I don't want to hear any rebuttal about how they kept it super secret, and cops are good at keeping things secret, blah blah. Shut up.

139 posted on 09/12/2018 4:16:10 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Her state of mind was the mistaken belief that he was in her place!! 1st year law student can walk her easy!!


140 posted on 09/12/2018 4:22:35 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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