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Nailed by Steel Tariffs: Trump protectionism is driving a Missouri company to the brink.
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 9, 2018

Posted on 09/10/2018 8:36:08 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Studies found that Bush's steel tariffs cost more jobs in steel-using industries than they saved in steel-makers, and history is repeating itself. Other articles on Mid Continent:

Largest US nail manufacturer clings to life under steel tariffs

Troubled Missouri nail company could be in its last month of operation

1 posted on 09/10/2018 8:36:08 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Sounds like the problem is letting in the cheap foreign-produced nails.

Trump should get on that.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 8:39:45 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: reaganaut1

Frankly, this is short term pain for long term gain.

You can ALWAYS find an individual who’s suffering next to a multitude that are excelling.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is the lowest in a long time, but I have no job - so we’re doing horribly. Or not.


3 posted on 09/10/2018 8:39:49 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: reaganaut1

The downside of tariffs. Trump is betting the Chinese (or whoever) will back down before we do.

We need to win that bet or there will be more cases like this.


4 posted on 09/10/2018 8:41:10 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time)
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To: reaganaut1

Cheap foreign steel?

No wonder all my nails seem to be bending lately.


5 posted on 09/10/2018 8:42:07 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: reaganaut1

The globalists at the WSJ had to look long and hard to find this sob story. They miss JEB!


6 posted on 09/10/2018 8:42:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: TheZMan

yet if there’s one thing certain about imposing tariffs, is that it hurts the majority in order to help a minority.


7 posted on 09/10/2018 8:43:04 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: reaganaut1

Surely there must be a federal contract somewhere to help this small company weather this storm.


8 posted on 09/10/2018 8:43:36 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: reaganaut1

Where do the other nail makers get their steel from?


9 posted on 09/10/2018 8:44:11 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: reaganaut1

I like Trump’s instincts on trade. Problem is that he’s taxing the wrong things. China taxes high value-added items and leaves basic inputs alone. So it would make sense to place a 200% tariff on China assembled phones phased in over 5 years, rather than the 25% currently mooted, and leave the penny ante stuff like pencils and bubble envelopes alone.


10 posted on 09/10/2018 8:45:47 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: txrefugee

So does the OP, he wants somebody else in 2020.


11 posted on 09/10/2018 8:46:20 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: reaganaut1

It doesn’t matter in what form the steel is imported. Whether as roll, ingot, or nail, it needs to be tarifed.

Though I can see how this could be problematic.


12 posted on 09/10/2018 8:46:24 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: txrefugee

“The globalists at the WSJ had to look long and hard to find this sob story. They miss JEB!”

Exactly.


13 posted on 09/10/2018 8:46:40 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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[Where do the other nail makers get their steel from?]


What other nail makers? Have you looked at country of origin information at your local Home Depot or Lowes recently?


14 posted on 09/10/2018 8:48:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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The same WSJ that called for “a five-word Constitutional amendment: ‘There shall be open borders’?” That WSJ?


15 posted on 09/10/2018 8:48:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: TheZMan

Exactly.... there is always PAIN... no matter what happens policy wise, someone wins and someone loses... but does the pain have a purpose?

Better trade agreements and intellectual property protections are far bigger winners at the end of the day....

China can’t win, and they know it... we are the largest consumer economy on the planet... they need our buyers far more than we need their products... and that’s the leverage point every talking head refuses to acknowledge.

Without the US consumption market, China goes into a major recession... can’t prop up its currency or make its domestic and foreign obligations for too long... Whereas the US can find alternate providers or ramp up domestic production to replace whatever China provided.


16 posted on 09/10/2018 8:48:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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That is the crux of it. You said it well. There’s no question that some companies are going to get smushed, and I would have no issue with the IRS generating some special exemptions for those legitimately harmed. As someone who trades stocks a lot and watches metals stocks a lot (X, RS, NUE, AA, CENX) the metals producers are not exactly doing spectacular as a result of the tariffs (or the threat of tariffs) and the market effect(s) to me are not conclusive; this of course assumes that the market rationally assigns values (eg; prices) to the companies based upon their perceived earnings and revs, and that is not especially an ironclad cause and effect relationship.


17 posted on 09/10/2018 8:49:05 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: txrefugee

So individually, neither metals manufacturer and make enough steel to be used as raw material. So what? Wouldn’t it be better to have two suppliers anyway?

Trump is using these tariff’s very effectively to get better deals from our trading partners. Sure there will be short term pain in certain industries for long term gain in ALL industries.


18 posted on 09/10/2018 8:50:27 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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The economy is doing great, unemployment is the lowest in a long time....

The labor force participation rate is declining. The actual number of people in the work force seems to be falling, according to BLS figures. This makes the "unemployment rate" appear better than it is.

Might just be a consequence of all those "baby boomers" retiring to live out their Golden Years. Perhaps the numbers are too gimmicked to be reliable.

Wages do not appear to be rising.

Best to keep paying attention to the little things. And cross-check them.

19 posted on 09/10/2018 8:51:00 AM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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There’s no easy answer. Yes, some are hurt by higher tariffs, but its also true that China would destroy the entire world’s steel industry with its centrally planned subsidies.

I wonder what this company’s supply-chain looks like? Managing sources and supply is as important as the sales function. I have no doubt this isn’t the first time they have faced problems with politically-sensitive steel duties and trade actions.


20 posted on 09/10/2018 8:52:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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