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From Lavrenti Beria to Lanny Davis
American Spectator ^ | August 27, 2018 | Ben Stein

Posted on 08/31/2018 5:48:11 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie

Now here’s something terrifying that’s swinging into action in a big way: the Deep State with dictatorial, unlimited prosecutorial powers. The Deep State is the permanent government of high powered bureaucrats. The most dangerous of these are federal and state prosecutors who can turn a man’s life upside down (woman’s, too) and make life not worth living. A prosecutor has powers that can and do send the innocent to the gas chamber, to prison for life, and frighten even the roughest and toughest of the tough. If they have a political axe to grind, they do it without a second thought.

This all comes to mind because of my former classmate at Yale Law School ’70, Lanny Davis, and his client, the deeply unfortunate Michael Cohen . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deepstate; lannydavis; michaelcohen; mueller
Ben Stein's analysis. When Ben Stein is talking "Deep State", you know the lines have been drawn.
1 posted on 08/31/2018 5:48:11 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Agreed. This has gone beyond serious.


2 posted on 08/31/2018 5:56:15 PM PDT by livius
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Prosecutors have way too much power. They can target anyone they wish. They can fabricate reasons to go after their targets. FISA warrants have proven this.


3 posted on 08/31/2018 6:12:38 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

90,000 lawyers in DC? More in NYC? That is scary.

We need to shut down every law school in the nation.


4 posted on 08/31/2018 6:14:14 PM PDT by boycott
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To: livius
I was puzzled by the Lanny Davis angle until Ben Stein gave his take. The whole Mueller thing is really a product of the Clinton Deep State. The Clintons still wield a tremendous amount of power. Michael Cohen threw himself on the mercy of the Clintons via Lanny Davis. Were it not for the Clintons, there would be no Mueller.
 
5 posted on 08/31/2018 6:17:01 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Ben Stein nails it. It is exactly what I thought when I saw he hired Lanny Davis. This is a supplication.


6 posted on 08/31/2018 6:22:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Yes, the author is correct. I commented as much here. When he hired Lanny Davis he was telegraphing to Mueller that he would “play ball”.


7 posted on 08/31/2018 6:34:00 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: boycott

Prosecutors have too much discretion. They will charge someone with every conceivable charge related to a crime. If someone robs a bank they aren’t charged with bank robbery, they are charged with bank robbery, terrorist threats, unlawful use of a firearm, evasion of police, obstruction of justice, assault, and unlawful imprisonment. And who knows what else.

They “throw the book” at the suspect in order to coerce them to make a plea. While maybe all these charges won’t stick, some or all might. Add them up, and 5 to 10 becomes 20 to life. Who wants to risk the chance of being sentenced to life in prison if they offer you 3 years in exchange for pleading guilty?

And I am under no illusion, most of those charged are guilty of some crime. But the charge is more about the politics of the prosecutors’ office than the severity and consequence of the crime. The prosecutors simply want the conviction and the file off their desk and so they strong arm a plea. If every person charged with a crime went to trial the justice system would grind to a halt. Prosecutors couldn’t keep up with all the evidence, witnesses, testimony... there aren’t enough judges and courtrooms and juries... The whole system depends on plea bargains. And they get the pleas by intimidating suspects with multiple violations of law all stemming from one single criminal act.


8 posted on 08/31/2018 6:42:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

And most these prosecuters are motivated by political gain. It’s not about justice, it’s about making a name for yourself.


9 posted on 08/31/2018 6:49:24 PM PDT by boycott
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To: monkeyshine

Cops used to do that with truckers.

Stop them for speeding than ‘throw in’ a couple of equipment violations -

It gave the driver a ‘bargaining chip’ and still pay the same fine as speeding but not have the points come off his license because he pled ‘guilty to the light out or such.

Believe there was a time that if a truck had one of those fancy ‘light jobs’ that they ALL had to be burning.


10 posted on 08/31/2018 6:55:40 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""Just because I keep saying WOW doesn't mean you are great!!")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“...Ben Stein nails it...” and it is scary.

Scary in what is described.

Scary in the only correction I can think of.


11 posted on 08/31/2018 7:45:22 PM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: budj
Scary in what is described. Scary in the only correction I can think of.

I figured something was wrong when that herpes pustule Bill Clinton could run for office without imploding. I was even more convinced something was wrong when that psycho-nazi-hate-witch Hitlery got away with "travelgate","filegate","cattle futures", "billing records", and all sorts of other corruption and scandals.

When that ignorant, mouthy, arrogant, stupid bastard Obama got elected, that's when I realized there are deep forces embedded in our system allowing some evil sh*t to happen.

Now we have the spectacle of the Deep State completely in the control of left wing kook corruptocrats.

Yeah, we're in trouble, and I hope Trump ends up seeing a lot of Deep State oligarchs getting sent to prison.

12 posted on 08/31/2018 8:06:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: boycott

Yes, exactly. The prosecutor or D.A. is usually an elected office. He wants a highly successful prosecution record. So his subordinates are under great pressure to achieve a 90%+ conviction rate. A plea is considered a conviction. And trials are time consuming and require a lot of real lawyering which they are not accustomed to. So office politics rules. The boss wants to win re-election or run for mayor or higher office, so all the prosecutors in his office better give him the statistics he wants, so he can campaign on his “achievements”.

If you watched The Wire on HBO, a great show btw, one of the themes is about the statistics of governance. The police precinct captain wants good arrest and ‘clearance’ statistics to please the chief. The chief wants good statistics to please the city council and mayor. The city council wants good number so they can run for mayor. The mayor wants good stats so he can run for governor. The school administrators want the student test scores to improve so they can get more money from the district, the district wants good scores so they can get more money from the state and feds... and on and on it goes.


13 posted on 08/31/2018 8:13:59 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The people will set this straight.


14 posted on 08/31/2018 8:26:41 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“... I hope Trump ends up seeing a lot of Deep State oligarchs getting sent to prison...”

Yes, because the option is rather bloody.


15 posted on 09/01/2018 6:44:33 AM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Republics are communities of laws; I shake my head in puzzlement when Freepers reflexively post that the US is a republic.


16 posted on 09/01/2018 2:38:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Nuc 1.1
The people will set this straight.

The people are the ones that set it crooked.

17 posted on 09/02/2018 12:08:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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