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Paul Krugman: For Whom the Economy Grows; G.D.P. only part of the story, we need to know the rest.
New York Times ^ | 08/31/2018 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 08/31/2018 7:44:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

“What’s in a name?” asked Shakespeare. But hey, I’m an economist, so let me ask a somewhat different question: What’s in a number?

Quite a lot, suggest Senators Chuck Schumer and Martin Heinrich. This week they introduced a bill that would direct the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which produces estimates of gross domestic product, to produce estimates telling us who benefits from growth — for example, how much is going to the middle class.

This is a really good idea.

Now, I’m not one of those people who think G.D.P. is a terribly flawed or useless statistic. It’s a number we need for many purposes. But on its own it isn’t an adequate measure of economic success.

There are a number of reasons this is true, but one key issue is that it tells you only what’s happening to average income, which isn’t always relevant to how most people live. If Jeff Bezos walks into a bar, the average wealth of the bar’s patrons suddenly shoots up to several billion dollars — but none of the non-Bezos drinkers have gotten any richer.

There was a time when asking who benefits from economic growth didn’t seem urgent, because income was rising steadily for just about everyone. Since the 1970s, however, the link between overall growth and individual incomes seems to have been broken for many Americans. On one side, wages have stagnated for many; adjusted for inflation, the median male worker earns less now than he did in 1979. On the other side, some have seen their incomes grow much faster than the income of the nation as a whole. Thus C.E.O.s at the largest companies now make 270 times as much as the average worker, up from 27 times as much in 1980.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gdp; inequality; krugman
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HE THEN GOES ON TO SAY:

A similar disconnect between overall growth and individual experience seems to lie behind the public’s lack of enthusiasm for the current state of the economy and its disdain for the 2017 tax cut. G.D.P. numbers have been good in recent quarters, but much of the growth has gone to soaring corporate profits, while median real wages have gone nowhere.

THEN RECOMMENDS THIS INSTEAD:

We need “distributional national accounts” that track how growth is allocated among different segments of the population.

1 posted on 08/31/2018 7:44:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t this guy predict a total collapse of the economy under Trump?


2 posted on 08/31/2018 7:47:09 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So I wonder why he wasn’t offering this wisdom to Obama? Probably because he knew Obama likely had his mother and his grandparents writing his teacher notes to excuse him from doing his homework and other ordinary school activities that were below the young Messiah’s level.


3 posted on 08/31/2018 7:49:08 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why wasn’t this necessary during the Obama administration, when the economy was growing at 1% annually?


4 posted on 08/31/2018 7:50:20 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Paul your IYI...intelligent yet idiot..

Maybe just an idiot


5 posted on 08/31/2018 7:52:26 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: SeekAndFind
Problem: Traditional, long-standing Statistics show that Trump is much better for the economy than Obama was.

Solution: Make up new statistics and game them to tell a sad story.

6 posted on 08/31/2018 7:52:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Pollard

RE: Didn’t this guy predict a total collapse of the economy under Trump?

When confronted with this, his response was — GIVE IT TIME.


7 posted on 08/31/2018 7:52:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Pollard

Every week


8 posted on 08/31/2018 7:55:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: SeekAndFind
More proof of fake news. :-/
9 posted on 08/31/2018 7:55:58 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: SeekAndFind

Over 4% GDP; record low unemployment; mines reopening; factories reopening; factories being moved to the US

But we need to know the rest. Ok Paul!


10 posted on 08/31/2018 7:56:47 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Cowboy Bob

Because in the World of Krugman trickle down poverty is acceptable but trickle down wealth never happens


11 posted on 08/31/2018 7:57:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: SeekAndFind

Between 2008 and 2016 the media did a good job explaining how bad news was really good news. I wondered “but is good news ever bad news?” Thankfully since Nov 2016 they’ve been doing a fantastic job explaining how really good news is actually terrible scary news.


12 posted on 08/31/2018 7:57:59 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: Pollard
Yup. And anyone who made that claim should be removed of their right to talk about it. Yet no one questions their credibility when they are proven completely wrong.
13 posted on 08/31/2018 7:58:14 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind
What ever university gave this asshat a degree in economics should be shut down!!!
14 posted on 08/31/2018 7:59:11 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Pollard

“Didn’t this guy predict a total collapse of the economy under Trump?”

Yeh..he’s trying real hard to garner - The Duranty / Blair Award for this year.....


15 posted on 08/31/2018 8:00:31 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: SeekAndFind
Standard Democrat tactic.

When they lose, they change the standard.

Trump won the electoral vote which is the established standard. But since Hillary won the popular vote, we should go by the popular vote count.

They get you coming and going.

16 posted on 08/31/2018 8:04:30 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: ontap

RE: What ever university gave this asshat a degree in economics should be shut down!!!

.... And what to make of the Nobel Committee? He won a Nobel Prize in Economics.


17 posted on 08/31/2018 8:05:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Hojczyk
Just an idiot.

Left always looking to create numbers that hide their abject stupidity. Like they need another excuse to divide the people.

18 posted on 08/31/2018 8:10:16 AM PDT by Cannoneer ( "..raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair.." GW)
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To: SeekAndFind
to produce estimates telling us who benefits from growth — for example, how much is going to the middle class.

Marxists now want to use GDP to divide us.
19 posted on 08/31/2018 8:16:51 AM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone needs to search Krugmans’ archives and see how many times he praised Obamas’ and Clintons’ GDP numbers.


20 posted on 08/31/2018 8:19:43 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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