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Protecting Competition in the Space Launch Market
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2018 | Brian Garst

Posted on 08/25/2018 12:47:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/25/2018 12:47:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This is all a scam.

A rocket that goes up and then lands upright is CGI. This is the equivalent of “bread and circuses” from the days of Julius Caesar.

Keep your eyes on the shinny thing while I take your money.


2 posted on 08/25/2018 12:54:29 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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But facts and figures, not speculation from analysts like me, should shape government policy.

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Not speculation, but ignorance.

The Block IV and all Falcon 9’s before it were not designed, but modified to be reusable. That’s why they were only used once or twice.

Even without reusability, the Falcon 9 is by far the lowest cost rocket in its class. When it’s reused, which the Block V is designed to be, it costs even less.

SpaceX has proved that with or without reusability, the taxpayers were being shafted by Boeing and Lockheed. SpaceX should be congratulated by the author instead of being accused.


3 posted on 08/25/2018 1:18:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

So you really think all of the Space X reusable boosterlandings shown are fake, even the ones at Kennedy Space Flight Center in front of many witnesses? What are your views on the moon landings?


4 posted on 08/25/2018 1:20:47 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kaslin
Fourteen astronauts died on board due to environmentally mandated quality control issues.
5 posted on 08/25/2018 1:31:09 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Keep your eyes on the shinny thing while I take your money.

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Don’t forget to keep you own eyes wide shut ... that will help your imagination stay fresh.


6 posted on 08/25/2018 1:33:25 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Fourteen astronauts died on board due to environmentally mandated quality control issues.

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What’s your source for that?

The basic safety problem with the Shuttle was the position of the Orbiter on the side rather than the top, and there was no escape system.

On top of that, NASA management failed to heed warnings from lower level employees.


7 posted on 08/25/2018 1:38:11 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Our commercial jets do this every day - no reason rockets cannot be designed to do this also. The redesign was necessary to strengthen parts found susceptible to undue wear after re-use - this would be a normal process of design, test, inspect, redesign.


8 posted on 08/25/2018 1:43:02 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
A rocket that goes up and then lands upright is CGI.

I think it's inspiring that a mentally retarded person like yourself can operate a keyboard and mouse. Keep it up!

9 posted on 08/25/2018 1:43:42 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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Musk didn’t make any unfounded accusations. He correctly identified the British pedophile homo living in Thailand. And THAT is the third rail of politics. So many of our leaders are pedophiles and homosexuals that he was instantly transformed from the liberal darling into persona non grata.

To learn who rules over you, figure out who you may not criticize...


10 posted on 08/25/2018 1:58:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Truth29

Fake.


11 posted on 08/25/2018 2:00:08 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Moonman62

The first shuttle accident was not due to environmental mandates. The second shuttle accident was caused by the foam that broke off the external fuel tank. They switch from the foam that ran successfully on all those prior missions to an environmentally friendly design that did not adhere as well

It is accurate to describe the second accident has caused by environmental BS. And it’s desire to be green NASA killed those last Seven astronauts when their shuttle was damaged on take off.


12 posted on 08/25/2018 2:02:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Good analysis on SpaceX exposing how we were being fleeced


13 posted on 08/25/2018 2:04:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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The second shuttle accident was caused by the foam that broke off the external fuel tank. They switch from the foam that ran successfully on all those prior missions to an environmentally friendly design that did not adhere as well

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What’s your source for that?

The Shuttle always had foam strikes. The problem was the position of the Orbiter on the side rather than the top.


14 posted on 08/25/2018 2:07:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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What’s your source for that?

Living thru the environmental scam that forced NASA to change the booster coating to an ‘environmentally friendly’ coating which flaked off, and the same with the seals ... switching materials to satisfy the green weenies, while helping kill the whole idea of manned space travel.

The position of the Shuttle on the rocket was modified from the Air Force concept which placed it on top. Which in itself was the answer to killing Project Orion in ‘64.

NASA caved to political pressure ... like most top heavy organizations, employee input is routinely round filed.


15 posted on 08/25/2018 2:33:06 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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The first disaster may have been caused by environmental concerns, as well. There were reports that the o rings that failed because they were too stiff due to the low temperature were made of a material that had replaced a formulation that was less temperature sensitive, but the manufacturing process had been criticized by environmentalists as being harmful to the environment in some manner (Don't remember the details). The final report did not say anything about that part of the o ring manufacturing history IIRC.
16 posted on 08/25/2018 2:39:29 PM PDT by Truth29
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The bipod foam that struck Columbia was made out of BX-250 which was made with Freon. That particular piece of foam had fallen off on six previous missions, before there was any change in regulations.

For return to flight, NASA replaced the bipod foam with a heater. The Columbia failure had nothing to do with environmental regulations.


17 posted on 08/25/2018 3:03:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Truth29

Then why didn’t NASA return to the previous o-rings (assuming there ever was such a thing) rather than using heaters?


18 posted on 08/25/2018 3:04:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Again, from very old memory, the environmental regulations that were in place at that time were deemed more important or too difficult to change and another solution had to be found.


19 posted on 08/25/2018 3:17:10 PM PDT by Truth29
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Environmental regulations had nothing to do with the Columbia disaster.

The bipod foam had fallen off six times before and had always used Freon, even on the Columbia. And the larger problem was the Orbiter being on the side where it was subject to debris strikes.

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20 posted on 08/25/2018 3:26:42 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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