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U.S. official warns of more actions against Turkey if pastor not freed
Reuters ^ | 14 Aug 2018 | Steve Holland

Posted on 08/14/2018 7:02:11 PM PDT by BeauBo

The United States is warning more economic pressures may be in store for Turkey if it refuses to release a jailed American pastor, a White House official said on Tuesday... if we do not see actions in the next few days or a week there could be further actions taken,” the official said. Further actions would likely take the form of economic sanctions, the official said, who added: “The pressure is going to keep up if we’re not seeing results.” ...The United States is also considering a fine against Turkey’s state-owned Halkbank for allegedly helping Iran evade U.S. sanctions.

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KEYWORDS: brunson; erdogan; kurdistan; receptayyiperdogan; turkey
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1 posted on 08/14/2018 7:02:11 PM PDT by BeauBo
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I don't get it.

why do the Turks want this guy so bad? seems kind of dumb to the an economic beating over one American pastor.

what is it? the principal of the thing?

2 posted on 08/14/2018 7:05:52 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: BeauBo

How many years?

FINALLY, a MAN in the White House.


3 posted on 08/14/2018 7:06:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: BeauBo

These bastards need to learn real bad that they don;t screw with the believers in Christ or we will crush them like bugs!! GO PRESIDENT TRUMP!!


4 posted on 08/14/2018 7:07:02 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will "shut down the government to get the WALL in September"r)
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To: beebuster2000
The minister is trading material for the guy they really want.

Fethulla Gulen


5 posted on 08/14/2018 7:12:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (ThereÂ’s a tear in my beer...)
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To: beebuster2000

The Turks double-crossed President Trump according to this:

“Report: US asked Israel to free terror suspect in deal for pastor held in Turkey”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-us-asked-israel-to-free-terror-suspect-in-deal-for-pastor-held-in-turkey/


6 posted on 08/14/2018 7:14:30 PM PDT by Doctor DNA (This is not your grandfather's internet.)
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To: beebuster2000
They have essentially taken him hostage to be freed in return for the US delivering a Turkish national, currently in the US, who Erdogan believes to be a principal in the unsuccessful coup against him. Trouble is, we don’t have the guy he wants, and the preacher, a US citizen, is totally innocent of the Turkish trumped up charges.

This is where Trump and American muscle will stomp on the fingers of a chickenshit foreign strong man who pisses us off.

7 posted on 08/14/2018 7:15:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: beebuster2000

Erdogan is a blow-hard petty-tyrant. When he said “no” to this request, when the issue was small, he sealed his fate.

Another Asian dictator who just doesn’t get Trump.

Trump also knows that years of Erdogan’s corruption had put the Turkish economy on a precarious footing. He just kicked the supports.

I don’t know if the Turkish Army has the clout it once did, but don’t be surprised to see a coup in the near future.


8 posted on 08/14/2018 7:15:57 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: hinckley buzzard

The principal in the coup was Erdogan himself.

What is Turkish for “Night of the long knives.”?


9 posted on 08/14/2018 7:18:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BeauBo

I would be fine either with the pastor’s release, or Erdogan being strung up like Mussolini (preferably with his son and son in law)


10 posted on 08/14/2018 7:19:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: BeauBo

Wow, its finally so refreshing to have a president that actually stands up for Americans. Look how many American Christians suffered hell in foreign countries (mainly Muslim countries) and Obummer just totally ignored them and partied on.


11 posted on 08/14/2018 7:28:44 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: BeauBo

The sick man of Europe strikes again, and Turkey is in NATO? Close Incirlik and bring everyone home. Erdogan is a nut case—par for the course for being a radical Islamist.


12 posted on 08/14/2018 7:29:06 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: beebuster2000
I don't get it. why do the Turks want this guy so bad?

What Erdogan wants is for the US to turn over Fethullah Gulen, who is living in Pennsylvania. A simple trade on the international board game.
13 posted on 08/14/2018 7:37:25 PM PDT by Colinsky
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To: beebuster2000

“why do the Turks want this guy so bad?”

On the one hand, he is a hostage they have taken, to trade for a political opponent of Erdogan’s, who lives in the US (Gulen).

On the other hand, there are other people in Turkish prisons, who may be part of the deal, but are not mentioned - people who worked in and for the US embassy in Turkey, at the time of the 2016 coup attempt.

Also, Erdogan has built an over-sized political image of himself as a strongman and a winner, for domestic political consumption. It is hard for him to climb down from a position politically (and perhaps psychologically).


14 posted on 08/14/2018 8:25:37 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Fungi

“Close Incirlik and bring everyone home.”

Since the 2016 coup attempt, the NATO tenants at Incirlik Air Base have been looking for other options, and things have been gradually migrating away.

With the war in Syria against ISIS wrapping up, the near term US need for Incirlik is dropping big time.

If the conflict in Syria (as seems likely) takes an increasing focus on Syria driving Turkey out of Syrian territory they have occupied, then we might want to be out of the way, while Nation States are going at it. Turkey is operating outside of NATO by invading their neighbor - NATO is not on the hook for that conflict.

So Incirlik used to be the big stick that Erdogan could use to compel the US and Europe, but no longer.


15 posted on 08/14/2018 8:35:33 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: prophetic; Texas Fossil; Balding_Eagle

“so refreshing to have a president that actually stands up for Americans.”

“FINALLY, a MAN in the White House.”

Amen.


16 posted on 08/14/2018 8:40:06 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: TADSLOS

Give him Gulen. This country should have no involvement with their intra-muzzie disputes.


17 posted on 08/14/2018 9:02:02 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: BeauBo
Over 150 years ago a nation's abuse of another nation's citizens was a Casus Belli and the offending nation paid dearly. The English Navy's impressment of American sailors into the British navy was one of the leading causes behind the War of 1812.

Casus belli - Wikipedia
Casus belli is a Latin expression meaning "an act or event that provokes or is used to justify war" (literally, "a case of war"). A casus belli involves direct offenses or threats against the nation declaring the war, whereas a casus foederis involves offenses or threats against its ally—usually one bound by a mutual defense pact.

18 posted on 08/14/2018 9:06:50 PM PDT by WMarshal (Because we're America, Bitches!)
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To: TADSLOS

ah.

makes sense.


19 posted on 08/14/2018 9:20:32 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: BeauBo

20 posted on 08/15/2018 12:25:04 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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