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Top Labour official: ‘Jewish Trump fanatics’ are inventing anti-Semitism claims
Times of Israel ^ | 31 July 2018 | Stuart Winer

Posted on 08/02/2018 5:56:11 AM PDT by SJackson

Calls grow for Peter Willsman to be expelled after tape emerges of his remarks at meeting on anti-Semitism guidelines, but party declines to discipline him, accepts apology instead

An audio recording has emerged of a senior member of the UK Labour party telling an executive committee meeting that allegations of anti-Semitism in the party are being made up by “Jewish Trump fanatics,” as the party continues to be roiled by accusations of tolerating anti-Jewish sentiment.

Peter Willsman made the comments during a meeting of the party’s National Executive Committee earlier this month when it approved controversial new guidelines on anti-Semitism, according to the Jewish Chronicle newspaper, which published the recording on Monday.

A series of scandals and controversies relating to anti-Semitism have ensnared Labour and its leader Jeremy Corbyn, culminating with its policy on anti-Semitism which has been condemned — including by members of the party– for omitting Israel-related definitions that have become standard elsewhere and for not embracing the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-Semitism.

According to the report, Corbyn, who has been accused of not doing enough to tackle anti-Semitism in the party, was at the July 17 meeting, at which Willsman also claimed he had not seen any evidence of anti-Jewish sentiment in the movement.

The recording begins with Willsman, a member of the NEC and secretary of the Campaign For Labour Democracy group, saying, “They can falsify social media very easily.”

“And some of these people in the Jewish community support Trump, they are Trump fanatics and all the rest of it,” continues Williams, who sounding increasingly agitated. “So I am not going to be lectured to by Trump fanatics making up duff [invalid] information without any evidence at all.”

“So I think we should ask the 70 rabbis ‘where is your evidence of severe and widespread antisemitism in this Party?’” Willsman said referring to an open letter signed by 68 rabbis decrying anti-Semitism in Labour and calling on the party to accept the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

“Let me ask you, let me ask you a question,” Willsman says, speaking over audible objections from others present, “how many people in this room have seen anti-Semitism in the Labour Party?”

“Put your hands up…one, two – you’ve had anti-Semitism in the Labour Party? I’m amazed,” he said after some apparently indicated they have. “I’ve certainly never seen it.”

Willsman later apologized for the remarks and although two complaints were filed following the incident — including one from the Jewish Labour Movement, a Jewish group within the party — he was not disciplined.

Labour MP Luciana Berger, who listened to the recording, called for Willsman to be suspended and for the party to hold a “formal investigation,” the Jewish Chronicle reported.

“Anyone listening to this recording will be appalled to hear the venom and fury directed by Mr. Willsman at the British Jewish community,” said Berger, who is parliamentary chair of the Jewish Labour Movement.

“That he accuses the Jewish community of falsifying social media and being ‘Trump fanatics’ in order to deny the serious concerns of 68 rabbis beggars belief,” Berger said. She noted that two Labour councilors have been suspended in the past week over suspicions of anti-Semitism and that party is investigating over 250 other complaints of anti-Semitic abuse.

Berger has herself been the victim of online anti-Semitism and threats.

Deputy Labor leader Tom Watson on Monday responded to the recording by tweeting: “For the avoidance of doubt: Peter Willsman is and always has been a loud mouthed bully. He disgusts me

Willsman is currently a candidate in elections for Constituency Labour Party places in the NEC.

At the end of last week, Labour General Secretary Jennie Formby informed Willsman that she had accepted an apology he sent to her and that there would be no investigation.

Formby wrote to the Jewish Labor Movement to say that she contacted Willsman “reminding him about the high standard of conduct we expect from all members – particularly those serving on the party’s governing body,” the UK’s Independent newspaper reported Tuesday.

“I have made clear any repetition of similar conduct is likely to result in formal disciplinary action,” Formby wrote to the JLM.

In his apology, apparently written before the audiotape was published, Willsman stated that “not all of what I said has been accurately reported,” the Independent reported.

“But I accept that what I did say, and the way I said it, fell short of the requirement, which I accept, for discussions of contentious issues to be conducted in a fully civil and respectful way. I deeply apologize for any offence caused to those present and those to whom my remarks were reported.”​

Marie van der Zyl, president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the official representative body of Britain’s Jewish community, called for Willsman to be kicked out of the party and questioned the decision to not discipline him.

“Now Peter Willsman’s disgusting rant against Jewish community & rabbis has been made public by @JewishChron [the Jewish Chronicle], & what seems to be lying exposed about what he did & didn’t say, he should be summarily expelled,” she tweeted.

Was Jennie Formby there to hear what was said? If yes, why did she let Willsman off so lightly?” she asked. “Was Jeremy Corbyn there to hear Willsman? If so, what form did his professed ‘militant opposition’ to antisemitism take when he heard it?”

“Why has it been so easy to clear Willsman after his slurs against the Jewish community, but anti-racist MPs @MargaretHodge [Margaret Hodge] & @IanAustinMP [Ian Austin] are still being put through the ringer?” she queried referring to two Labor MPs who are facing disciplinary action over their criticism of Corbyn’s attitude towards allegations of party anti-Semitism.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; israel; jeremycorbyn; labour; lucianaberger; peterwillsman; tomwatson; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 08/02/2018 5:56:11 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Trump people support Israel... period.


2 posted on 08/02/2018 6:02:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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British liberals may well be loonier than ours, probably the island air.

It's not necessary to point out there really aren't many radical Jewish Trump supporters, this is about bigotry not facts. If you're a politician, and you think your constituency hate Jews and hate Trump, combining the two is a political twofer. Facts are irrelevant, you're simply creating a new reality.

The same derision of Trump supporters is common amongst liberals he, rather than religion race (white) the secondary trait. Though not quite as direct as white Trump supporters.

3 posted on 08/02/2018 6:02:14 AM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: SJackson
Jewish Trump Fanatics

Living in their heads rent-free while still seven time zones away.

4 posted on 08/02/2018 6:03:14 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: GOPJ

Interesting, I think you’re right, he probably meant supporters of Israel rather than Jewish. Had he said Zionist Trump fanatics it wouldn’t be an issue. Plus labor could spin it that they love Jews, just hate Zionists.


5 posted on 08/02/2018 6:04:14 AM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: SJackson

The left are rabid anti-semites cloaked in a thin veil of civil rights advocacy. That veil is now so thin as to be transparent. If you ever wonder if the holocaust could be repeated, there is no shortage of leftist and muslim collaborators who would be happy to reopen Auschwitz.


6 posted on 08/02/2018 6:08:26 AM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: SJackson

“Inventing” anti-Semitism is what we Joooos! do. For example, the Holocaust. It’s all a Jooo! conspiracy./s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrRyqses5U


7 posted on 08/02/2018 6:17:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SJackson

in USA, there are still Jews in the D party...despite the DNC having been taken over (purchased) over ten years ago by SorozNazi, foreign IslamoNazi dictatorship interests.
The people still in the D party need to be informed of the (vast) difference between “liberal social values” and communist/Nazi “leftism”... Basically, people still in the D party are coasting on air, they have not noticed their once “liberal social values” political party is no more.

Liberal people generally support America, the Church and synagogue’s moral values, the Western tradition of liberty, Israel, etc.

Leftist/communist/Nazis generally oppose all of the above, and quite dangerously so, too


8 posted on 08/02/2018 6:21:40 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( "Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: SJackson

Yes, very interesting. Use Trump as a bogeyman to bully opponents.

Seems like Corbynistas realise they can’t back down anymore in the ideology war.


9 posted on 08/02/2018 6:29:26 AM PDT by granada
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To: Eleutheria5

Anti-Semite Logic:

Jews, you are responsible for me hating you so stop making me hate you and I will cease.


10 posted on 08/02/2018 6:38:52 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Netz

Yes. You are provoking me with your sidelocks, your yarmulkes and your matza made from blood of infants.


11 posted on 08/02/2018 6:46:06 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: jiggyboy

Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. Trump is only five time zones away from the Greenwich observatory.


12 posted on 08/02/2018 6:49:57 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: faithhopecharity

In America, vast majority of Jews are liberals, progressive wannabes.

Now Jewish progressives start to figure out strategy to deal with the widening schism between American Jews and israelis.


13 posted on 08/02/2018 6:53:10 AM PDT by granada
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To: granada

There is no widening schism between American Jews ( and/or Christians) and Israel. There are a number of left wing “activists” (communists, essentially) who enjoy screaming or complaining against Israel — it psychologically is little more than a projection of their self-loathingness ( aka: JSS— Jewish suicide syndrome). What happened to them is they somehow soaked up and inculcated into themselves the anti-semitism from their environment ( usually going back to their childhoods) and society. Also, they psychologically self-affirm their far-leftist true believer membership status by “falling in with” and demonstrably exhibiting that they “support” the traditional badge- identifier “causes” of the extreme far leftist ideological movements ( communism , Nazism). This perverse behavior increases their own sense of acceptance while it also ( desperately) seeks acceptance by their ( very limited) vista of “larger society,” the other. In brief, a psychiatric sickness that results in sociological dysfunctionality. But the Jews among these sad cases gave up their jewish/ biblical faith years or generations ago. They have zero connection or commitment or belonging to the Jewish people. They’ve simply chosen another faith system - one that replaces God with a ( distorted, often dangerous) quest for self- righteousness Imho


14 posted on 08/02/2018 7:48:56 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( "Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Eleutheria5

But...but Jews are absolutely forbidden (by G-d) to NEVER consume anything with blood in it so how can they accuse of of the Blood libel???


15 posted on 08/02/2018 8:12:26 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Netz

They manage.


16 posted on 08/02/2018 8:32:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Netz

Remember Bella Lugosi as Dracula? He wore a Star of David medallion. Nowadays, the Swedish updated it by saying Jooo! doctors steal organs from the dead, which turned into that’s why we shoot Palis, for their organs.


17 posted on 08/02/2018 8:49:22 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Netz

18 posted on 08/02/2018 8:51:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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