Posted on 08/01/2018 8:22:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
While I acknowledge your post, I have to say history may judge differently.
Reagan was 'the great communicator', and as you said, killed with kindness. But the game is very different today than it was 38 years ago. The gloves are off, on all sides. Being diplomatic, or "presidential", has resulted in the left attacking conservatives and advancing its socialist agenda unabated. Trump has demonstrated that taking punches and smiling about it is not a winning strategy. Its past time to 'hit back', and if it takes brutal tweets, so what.
I'm not going to ask about your comment about your niece. That was just weird.
Perhaps, but it is still a nuclear threat and a threat to several of our allies. They’ve been a festering sore for almost seven decades and no one, until now, was serious about dealing with them. The same goes for Iran.
Yes, I was, albeit just coming of age.
Yes, they railed against him, but they couldn’t seriously throw out anything against him, because it wouldn’t even make any sense and be believable, given his character and personality.
Dems ALWAYS hate on Republicans, at least in print and in their political offices. But the truth was, every-day Dems and many of those same muck-rakers couldn’t really hate him. They wanted to, but largely he disarmed them all. They tried, because he was the wrong side, but personally they just couldn’t.
Hell, I had my Dem best friend really lamenting his end of term....”he made us proud of America, and I’ll miss it.”
I think Trump is actually more conservative, in his job performance, than Reagan. He has blown me away.
I think Trump is actually more conservative, in his job performance, than Reagan. He has blown me away.
And just to be clear, I was temp banned twice (once during the primary and once during the general) for being so anti-trump.
I thought he was a chameleon and we didn’t know what he would really do. Well, we do now, and I very much like what I see.
Reagan faced a solidly Democrat house for 8 years and a Democrat Senate for 6. The fact that he was able to achieve what he did legislatively is quite remarkable.
Trump, by contrast, can’t even get other Republicans onboard with his agenda. That says more about how corrupt the GOP is in 2018 than anything about Trump’s or Reagan’s powers of persuasion.
The NYT hated Reagan. They pine for the version of him the media has created, which barely resembles the real Gipper.
I confess I think you are right.
It’s a metaphor. You haven’t noticed all the fools today constantly bending their necks and staring and typing with their little mini-computer security blankets? Obsession. I call that love-making when they caress their “phones” constantly.
Your discussing styles implies that the Bushes were the same as Reagan. They weren’t. They were nice, but would roll over for just about anything, fearing to appear “mean” OR actually believing socialist nonsense themselves. Which is the problem with most “Rep” today, either cowards or too centrist RINO.
Reagan was NOT afraid to hold the line. He was not ashamed of conservative principles. His was not the same as Bush likeability.
Very different times. Reagan was also dealing with the cold war. The situations while on the surface seem similarly are quite different. Reagan was for then, Trump is for now. I really don’t think they are interchangeable in time.
I disagree with you vehemently. I was a Reagan Democrat. He was lambasted and ridiculed. They tried to assassinate him and remove him through the Iran-Contra scandal. He was a gentleman and let them walk all over him. At the end, he faced two houses full of partisan zealots hiding behind a relentless media.
Trump fights them as a street fighter. He connects with the people at a far deeper level than Reagan did. We needed them both, and you should be ashamed of your attacks on our president. What do you want? The same kindness Reagan showed to be given to this den of snakes? Where did it get Reagan? Absolutely nowhere, and these people are a hundred times worse.
I wouldn’t want you in combat next to me.
Trump has surpassed Reagan in so many ways it isn’t even a comparison anymore.
So, words scare you. Got it.
You want nice and can’t stand rough.
Gosh, I guess we don’t need a military, we just need Miss Manners.
Look at the progress made with Kim Jong-un and now his "conversation" with Iran and the Iranian people. With regards to Iran, just last week he threatened them with annihilation if they threatened us...and now he is offering to meet with them face-to-face with no pre-conditions. He is basically isolating the Iranian leadership from its own people...and he is doing it with just a few tweets.
Trump may have the speaking/tweeting style of a NYC construction worker, but there is a method to his "madness." He is focused like a laser on results...and neither he nor we have time for the normal niceties of diplomacy.
As an aside, the big story in this article is not that Trump is being compared to Reagan, but that this glowing pro-Trump article was published on the opinion page of the New York Times. That is on a par with CNN actually admitting that Trump might just be winning (and when/if that happens, hell will surely be under a freeze warning).
You kind of switched from Reagan vs Trump to Reagan vs Bush, but that’s ok.
The Bushes were never Reagan. All due respect to Papa Bush as a WWII vet, he was the deep state of his era. His response to the 91 Gulf War was right, then wrong. We should not have had to wait 10 years to finish what we started. And then he folded on taxes. I was actually proud of GW early on. His response to 911 was the right response, and I shudder to think what the state of affairs would be like if AlGore had been in the hot seat. But then GW folded on too many big government programs and bailouts. In my book he went from hero to major disappointment, all of his own doing.
Could not agree with you more.
The Democrat Party officially adopted Saul Alinky’s kick-em-in-the-groin street fighting tactics shortly after the ink had dried on Rules for Radicals.
They have been rolling Republicans ever since, until Trump came along and showed that he can play the game by their rules. Reagan was from a more decent, genteel era where Democrats and Republicans could debate and disagree with civility. That started to go away after Alinsky. No doubt the harsh reality of that came as quite a shock to The Gipper.
“Reagan set forth policies that collapsed the USSR. That is a hard act to top.”
Hopefully, Trump will collapse the communist/progressive/democrats/media in the United States. That would be an equally extraordinary achievement.
Good God, why is it no one can dare state Trump is not the be-all end-all? Why must we all be in lock step even in our private personal opinion of his character, etc?
What “attacks”? You are just a knee-jerk reactionary, wounded by the least criticism of your idol. Tell me where I “ATTACKED” Trump. That is total hyperbole on your part.
If you think my view of Reagan as better than Trump is an “attack”, you better look up the definition.
Absurd. You know what is meant. Not every polite person is a push-over....which I was trying to convey.
God forbid we criticize Trump, or think someone else is better. You think that means we won’t support him. I have to, especially if he pushes the right policy.
Yeah, I think several leaders are better than Trump. So what?
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