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Drejka/McGlockton press conference
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/watch-live-pinellas-sheriff-naacp-hold-news-conference-about-clearwater-stand-your-ground-case/1336313854 ^ | 7/31/18 | me

Posted on 07/31/2018 7:42:09 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

holding a live press conf now. NAACP didn't show up. Sheriff is defending his position not to arrest. Said it's still winding it's way through the process. Drejka said nothing threatening to the woman in the car and no words were exchanged between McGlockton & Drejka. They viewed and reviewed the video and he stands his own ground on the decision not to arrest.

Not a lot of other info about details (ie was McGlockton armed, etc)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drejka; mcglockton; selfdefense; standyourground
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1 posted on 07/31/2018 7:42:09 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Even if this is a bad shoot, it’s no reason to change the law. The AG can still charge after reviewing evidence. The law just kept him from getting arrested on the spot and he doesn’t start with a presumption of guilt.


2 posted on 07/31/2018 7:58:39 AM PDT by fruser1
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I really don’t think, particularly after this PC, that the DA will charge. The sheriff is making it clear that mcglockton was the attacker and drejka was in the right.


3 posted on 07/31/2018 8:00:02 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

It was murder. The shooter had a history of harassing folks in that parking lot. My opinion, he was begging for someone to push back so he would be ALLOWED to shoot. He’s a sicko... The victims pushed him down after a third party states there was a guy harassing a woman outside. He pushes the guy down, but he doesn’t advance on him. He just stood there and then he was shot. Just my view on it guys. It wasn’t stand your ground...


4 posted on 07/31/2018 8:00:25 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: Mathews

you’re fixin to be proved wrong. the case is all about this seconds long incident, that’s it. no other speculated incidents on different days or anything else.


5 posted on 07/31/2018 8:01:59 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
Sometimes there are no good guys. Sometimes, everybody involved is an asshole. And sometimes, a bunch of assholes engaged in assholery results in somebody (hopefully one of the assholes) getting killed.

And YES, I think the shooter is an asshole. So was the shootee, and so is his female companion.

6 posted on 07/31/2018 8:08:22 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Mathews

“He pushes the guy down, but he doesn’t advance on him. He just stood there and then he was shot.”

Watch again. He DOES advance on him after the push UNTIL he sees the gun. Then he starts to back up and is shot. I think the shooter was still frightened. Seems unlikely that a jury would call it murder.


7 posted on 07/31/2018 8:14:31 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: spacejunkie2001; Mathews

The killer’s past aggressive activity may not be allowed into evidence at his criminal trial, but it will be front and center of the civil lawsuit.

Particularly since the business will be a defendant in the action (no greedy plaintiff lawyer can resist going after a deep pocket)


8 posted on 07/31/2018 8:20:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

if they don’t charge him or they exonerate him (Drejka), he is immune from prosecution or civil lawsuit.


9 posted on 07/31/2018 8:23:10 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Immune from a civil lawsuit because he isn’t charged?

Is there a particular decision or statute in his state that is based on?


10 posted on 07/31/2018 8:25:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Mathews

You’re wrong on several points.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3675172/posts


11 posted on 07/31/2018 8:28:09 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: BenLurkin
past aggressive activity

Oh my, aggressive activity, Please enumerate. How does it stack up against the pushers police record.

12 posted on 07/31/2018 8:34:47 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: BenLurkin

stand your ground and self defense laws protect law abiding citizens from any legal attack. that’s why st. skittles family couldn’t sue GZ.


13 posted on 07/31/2018 8:39:57 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Fhios

The trial judge will decide if the decedent’s rap sheet comes into evidence. I rather doubt it, but if so then the jury will weigh it.

Either way, it makes little difference as to the store’s liability.


14 posted on 07/31/2018 8:40:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

I don’t recall stand your ground as being raised in the Zimmerman trial.


15 posted on 07/31/2018 8:48:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, but I’m still interested in your “ aggressive activity” angle. I think it’s a generic term and likely hearsay to cast a nefarious shadow on the shooter.

Next we’ll be hearing the shooter *might have been* a member of the KKK.


16 posted on 07/31/2018 8:49:30 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: spacejunkie2001
Drejka said nothing threatening to the woman in the car

Hmmm, so the felon who violently attacked him and threw him to the concrete was threatening his life for no apparent reason?

17 posted on 07/31/2018 8:51:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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"Is there a particular decision or statute in his state that is based on?"

Florida has a self-defense immunity (not stand your ground) law.

18 posted on 07/31/2018 8:52:41 AM PDT by mlo
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To: spacejunkie2001

Trayvon Martin’s family settles wrongful death lawsuit with Sanford, Florida, homeowner’s association

By David Knowles

| NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
Apr 05, 2013 | 4:06

“While Trayvon’s parents have now agreed to drop their wrongful death claim against the homeowner’s association, Crump has made clear that he still plans to pursue a civil lawsuit against Zimmerman.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-death-civil-case-housing-complex-settled-1-million-article-1.1308943


19 posted on 07/31/2018 8:55:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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"I don’t recall stand your ground as being raised in the Zimmerman trial."

"Stand your ground" is persistently used when it doesn't apply.

Self-defense immunity is not stand your ground.

"Stand your ground" doesn't have to be raised, it's part of the self-defense law covering whether a defender has a duty to retreat.

Neither this case nor the Zimmerman case were "stand your ground" cases, because neither involved an opportunity to retreat.

20 posted on 07/31/2018 8:56:35 AM PDT by mlo
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