Posted on 07/29/2018 10:13:10 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
Besides a few diehard antisocialists, most would agree.
Farm subsidies and agricultural price supports of various sorts have been around for a long time. There would be no ethanol, for instance. We need the farmers so we can eat, and nothing else is more important to us than that.
Commodity prices today 1 year performance:
Cotton + 28.2%
Wheat + 10.6%
Orange juice + 18.9%
Corn - 3.0%
Where’s the need?
Gee, talk about putting numbers out into a vacuum without any reference points.
What is the break-even price on wheat? Soybeans?
Oh, wait, where are the soybeans?.
BTW, I’ll bet you didn’t know corn was underwater a year ago already.
Yep, from what I hear, the liberal view is that we are supposed to be :
#1 outraged about the tariff situation, and how Trump deals with trade and tariffs, and
#2 we are supposed to be outraged about Trump supposedly going against free trade ideals by helping the farmers.
No matter how you slice it, we are supposed to be outraged at Trump’s policies in this area.
Of course, that could apply to anything Trump says or does.
We could just (fill in the blank) and we are supposed to be outraged that Trump said (fill in the blank) and outraged that Trump took (fill in the blank) action.
A saying around this farming area is, “Without farmers we’d all be nekkid and hungry.”
“a third of Democrats”
Democrats hate farmers.
We California row crop vegetable grower who get no federal price supports, crop insurance etc say maybe it’s time to get off the government teat.
Trump got rid of death tax so farmers don’t have to sell the family farm to pay the IRS. So now they can leave the farms to kinfolk.
Trump eliminated many expensive EPA regs saving farms money.
And lowered the taxes for almost everyone.
What the heck are these guys complaining about? Don’t they want America to stop losing 800 billion a year in trade deficits?
Give Trump time to Win on Trade like he is with the EU.
He has only been in DC for 1.5 years, give him some time and your support.
I hear that there ia fear in England that a hard BREXIT will result in food shortages in England. The farmers in the USA are fearful of losing some of their market in China in the current trade conflict. It seems like the best thing for the UK to do is get a us-uk deal. Then if a hard brexit happens then the eu will be more negotiable.
I would rather see a $12B to give temporary relief to the farmers than pallets of cash to the mooo-lahs in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Yep!....as said....”Don’t knock farmers with your mouth full”...
Least the complainers forget.......Obama paid “Cash for Clunkers”.....
If Trump’s aid helps the small farmer, then I’m OK with it in the short run (long enough to force China’s hand). But if most of it goes to Big Agriculture, I don’t like it.
They will get paid by the acre so the small farmer will get a small amount and the big farmer will get a big amount.
And those that contribute to the GOP will get paid double
So, most Democrats oppose farmers. Is it because they are mostly White?
Subsidies pick winners and losers. We had a machining business for 35 years. The only benefit we got was depreciation on huge cost of CNC machines. All businesses get that...including farmers. If there were no subsidies would farmers make market based decisions on what they grew and when?
It was not a level playing field with other industries. As with tariffs...get the subsidies down to 0 and let the true free market work.
Gosh, thats it for growth? Bless their suffering hearts while they eat before your kids and their kids. Most mega farms are owned by big AG.. this my friend, is coroprate cronyism.
Trump is protecting those whom his adversaries in his "trade war” are trying to take hostage. IMHO that’s pretty far from stupid, whether or not the farms in question are “mega.”
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