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Florida Store Owner Arrested for Opening Fire on Fleeing Beer Thief
The Truth About Guns ^ | 07/19/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 07/19/2018 10:49:11 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: Dapper 26

Here in the state of Washington you can use “reasonable force” to prevent a felony. So if someone is stealing something out of your store, or vandalizing it - you can use reasonable force.

The question then becomes what is “reasonable”.

There was a case awhile ago where a neighbor saw his next door neighbor’s house getting robbed. He went and got his bow and shot the burglar in the butt with a hunting broadhead as the thief was loading a TV into his trunk. I can’t recall if he yelled at the thief to stop or not.

The cops said the “shooting” was justified. BUT - if the guy had hit the thief in the chest and killed him - it wouldn’t have been!? That doesn’t make sense to me.


81 posted on 07/20/2018 1:46:07 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Robert357

You are correct. IN Texas you can use deadly force to protect property, but only after dark!


82 posted on 07/20/2018 5:56:30 AM PDT by cb
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To: BenLurkin

“brazen thief, Defoe — a multiple felon —”...

Nope, he’s not needed here anymore.


83 posted on 07/20/2018 6:04:07 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Leaning Right
Mehedeun Hasan - My first thought was that he’s Indian, as I know an Indian with a first name close to that. But ‘Hasan’, that’s Islamic. So I think Ed is right.

India has the second largest Muslim population in the world, and Pakistan is majority Muslim.

84 posted on 07/20/2018 7:15:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Boomer

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Your confusion appears deliberate.

The store keeper was attempting to apprehend and arrest the thief.

He has the constitutional right to do so.

If he did not have that right, then neither could anyone else, including any ‘police’ or other governmental body.

The only constitutional power of arrest that exists is the citizen’s power of arrest.

I know my efforts are like trying to put gold into your toothpaste tube, but so be it.
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85 posted on 07/20/2018 8:30:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

So let me get this straight. You actually believe the shooter had a lawful right to shoot a fleeing thief from point blank range when that thief presented no danger at all to the shooter or anyone else? Have I got that right?

Dude; you will end up in prison one day if you believe and try doing this yourself. Not even a cop has the lawful right to do that.

I think you need to work on your toothpaste tube some more. Maybe try opening the bottom end and fill it that way.


86 posted on 07/20/2018 8:37:24 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer

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Apprehending a criminal that has committed theft against you is a right.

The thief was actively attempting to evade capture.

You’re actively attempting to perpetrate a false narrative here.

That is your standard MO on this subject.
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87 posted on 07/20/2018 8:41:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boomer

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>> “Not even a cop has the lawful right to do that.” <<

Wow!

No cop has any right that the entire population lacks.

How do you leftie loons end up here?
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88 posted on 07/20/2018 8:44:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I dunno. You’ve been here since Feb. 1998. That’s a long time for a leftist to be lurking here. What happened; DU get too boring for you?

When you were working on Hitlery’s election PAC; did you ever go out for “pizza”? Aren’t you and Podesta close (very close) bud’s? Did Hitlery ever invite you into their Manhattan penthouse?


89 posted on 07/20/2018 11:21:25 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer

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Will you ever tire of being a dip$hit?


90 posted on 07/21/2018 9:31:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I suppose that depends on if you will ever get a clue.

It’s troubling you don’t know a crime from a dime.


91 posted on 07/22/2018 3:29:35 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer

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You leftie loons are always trying to turn life into a crime.

The shop owner was apprehending a criminal, after witnessing a crime.

Morally, and constitutionally he committed no crime.

Morally your posts are a crime against America and common sense.
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92 posted on 07/22/2018 3:17:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Simon Green
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93 posted on 07/22/2018 3:29:23 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: editor-surveyor

Talking with you is about as productive as hitting one’s head up against the wall.

All one gets from it is a headache.

Don’t you have some illegals to smuggle or something? Maybe give Mad Maxine her bath...


94 posted on 07/22/2018 5:17:25 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer

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Your problem is that there is ought but K9 poop in your craniun.
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95 posted on 07/22/2018 5:36:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Really? That’s all you got? My K9 could do better. Even the dumb one.


96 posted on 07/22/2018 5:54:10 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Dapper 26
It is ridiculous to assume that unless there is bodily harm, one cannot protect their property or deter thieves, that we have to wait till there is death or injury.

Attention Morons: if you allow citizens to take a life over $40 worth of beer, then you open the door wide for government to take lives over $40, or less. Let's try to pretend that life is meaningful and valuable, shall we? Jail and prison and police and security cameras still exist. You don't have to murder a dumbass to exact your revenge or deter future theft.

97 posted on 07/23/2018 7:45:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Simon Green

I hope the beer wasn’t injured.


98 posted on 07/23/2018 7:48:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 trillion dollars.)
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To: WASCWatch

Regardless of the outcome, it will cost the store owner a lot more than the cost of three 18-packs.


99 posted on 07/23/2018 7:53:28 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: 21twelve
shot the burglar in the butt with a hunting broadhead

That'll slow ya down ...

100 posted on 07/23/2018 7:58:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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