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What's the real story on the German/Russian pipeline collusion

Posted on 07/11/2018 3:31:55 PM PDT by doghorse

So just cool is this oil pipeline that Germany wants to work with so desperately..


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1 posted on 07/11/2018 3:31:55 PM PDT by doghorse
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To: doghorse

Flashback!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106382/Europe-plunged-energy-crisis-Russia-cuts-gas-supply-Ukraine.html

Trump is right, again.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/11/germany-and-russia-gas-links-trump-questions-europe-nord-stream2


2 posted on 07/11/2018 3:52:19 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

As Trump pointed out the former Chancellor of Germany is head of the project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MJEMHZZsI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_8kJ_NTi1Q


3 posted on 07/11/2018 3:57:18 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: doghorse

Information about the Nordstream project
https://www.dw.com/en/nordstream-2-to-pump-but-ukraine-gas-transit-will-remain/a-44511681

Political impediments being imposed by the US Ukraine and some other countries

No way is Germany ( or the rest of Europe) going to meet its energy needs by shipping US LNG 3500 miles across the Atlantic


4 posted on 07/11/2018 4:04:56 PM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: doghorse

Why call this collusion?

Germany and Russia are building a gas pipeline together. Nothing immoral is going on - except perhaps that the plans of the Obama Whitehouse are finally being thwarted.


5 posted on 07/11/2018 4:06:11 PM PDT by agere_contra (Please pray for Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: dynoman
As Trump pointed out the former Chancellor of Germany is head of the project.

Didn't 007 do a movie on this one?

6 posted on 07/11/2018 4:24:05 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: silverleaf
No way is Germany ( or the rest of Europe) going to meet its energy needs by shipping US LNG 3500 miles across the Atlantic

Well of course, since they shut down their coal and nuclear and wasted untold resources on the pipe dream fantasy of "renewable" wind and solar. The Russians convinced Europe to turn off their last life line what did they expect to happen.

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7 posted on 07/11/2018 4:43:42 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: doghorse

Molotov Ribbentrop pact 21st century style.


8 posted on 07/11/2018 4:49:10 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: doghorse

The way Germany’s going, having Russia controlling them would probably be better than having ISIS take over, which is their alternate future.


9 posted on 07/11/2018 4:59:51 PM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: agere_contra

Because Russia can cut off the energy at any moment in time.

In 2009 it did just that, causing major problems in the midst of winter.

Russia is the last nation on earth I’d bet my fellow countrymen’s future on.


10 posted on 07/11/2018 5:08:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: silverleaf

Is Germany a reliable NATO partner if they are depending on Russia for 70% of their energy needs? I do not think Germany is at all likely to oppose Russia on anything Russia does given those circumstances. So the question I have is what is the purpose of NATO anyways? Who or what is NATO protecting Europe from? I think it is past time to call it quits and let the Euroweenies protect themselves.


11 posted on 07/11/2018 5:14:41 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: DoughtyOne

We shouldn’t subsidize Germany’s global-warming/Paris-Accord delusions is also Trump’s point....


12 posted on 07/11/2018 5:22:50 PM PDT by 4Liberty (illegal immigration is a "process" crime too....)
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To: 4Liberty

That’s fine too.


13 posted on 07/11/2018 5:26:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Because Russia can cut off the energy at any moment in time.

In 2009 it did just that, causing major problems in the midst of winter.

Russia is the last nation on earth I’d bet my fellow countrymen’s future on.
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Why should we insist that the Germans view Russia as an enemy when they are not afraid of them enough to stop buying gas from them? The cold war with a communist Russia is over. Obama and the EU are the real communists now.


14 posted on 07/11/2018 7:30:26 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Socon-Econ

I supplied enough reason right there.

I’m not saying they should take up arms, but you don’t subject your whole populace to a shutoff or heating in the middle of Winter on a Russian leader’s whim.


15 posted on 07/11/2018 8:18:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Take a look out there folks. Can you see evidence of a Left Wing Hate Group, perhaps fascist too?)
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To: Socon-Econ

Merkel was from East Germany. Was in the communist party.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328536/Angela-Merkel-Communist-links-new-image-uniform-released.html

Maybe the whole ting was planned, let east Germany go, Merkel becomes the chancellor, takes over the EU then the whole thing folds back to Russia.

How’s that for a conspiracy theory?


16 posted on 07/11/2018 8:27:59 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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