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Treasury Secretary Mnuchin says he's expecting a 'big' GDP number
CNBC ^ | 06/28/2018 | Tae Kim

Posted on 06/28/2018 11:54:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: DoodleDawg
The market is now manipulated almost entirely by PROGRAM TRADING!

Take human beings out of the equation and you wind up with unfeeling, non-intuative algorithms doing STUPID stuff, that human beings wouldn't...or at the least, would correct fast! The CRASH OF '87 was the start of this garbage, though humans were still on trading floors and did manage to fix a lot of the crap that the damned "programs" had started and then continued.

21 posted on 06/28/2018 12:37:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DoughtyOne
As you should do! :-)

I had forgotten about that one and am glad that you posted it!

22 posted on 06/28/2018 12:38:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SeekAndFind

The “advance” estimate of GDP for the second quarter of 2018 will be released on July 27, 2018 at 8:30am.


23 posted on 06/28/2018 12:43:07 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Sequoyah101
Yes, they happen so often..

The stock market doesn't like uncertainty and few things are more uncertain than a trade war. Commodities markets either - soybean prices are down 20% since May.

24 posted on 06/28/2018 12:43:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

RE: The “advance” estimate of GDP for the second quarter of 2018 will be released on July 27, 2018 at 8:30am.

It already is July 28,2018. Do we know what the advance estimate is?


25 posted on 06/28/2018 12:52:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“It already is July 28,2018. Do we know what the advance estimate is?”


Uh, you might want to check your calendar.


26 posted on 06/28/2018 1:19:04 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

My mistake, I read July to be June :)


27 posted on 06/28/2018 1:37:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: nopardons
":^)

Obama was not qualified to be allowed to enter into and be president in the White House, to govern from the Oval Office, because he could not provide a birth certificate ID.

None the less he was the White House illegal president for eight years.

If our free president had been doing it's job, this would not have happened.

While it could have been worse, he still did make a very negative president in this nation's global standing, it's alliances, its Supreme Court, its military capabilities, its security status, its economy, its K-12th grade schools and students, it's universities and students, its citizens respect for reasoned government, its judicial system's respect for the law (even our Founders, Founding Documents, and the U. S. Constitution), the gender related disconnect, its race relations, and it's domestic tranquility.

He sanctioned president-a-mobs and other very unsavory public displays of criminality.

He came to president the majority of our citizens.

He did not president with good decent law abiding citizens against the illegal alien invaders.

That he is now allowed to president inside this nation outside our president system, is a blemish on this nation's standard of equal justice under the law.

28 posted on 06/28/2018 1:38:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: nopardons
The market is now manipulated almost entirely by PROGRAM TRADING!

Thereby giving investors an advantage. Price isn't value.

29 posted on 06/28/2018 1:41:05 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: DoughtyOne

Very well stated and I agree with you 100% on this. :-)


30 posted on 06/28/2018 1:46:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Thanks nopardons.

I was sure of that.

Take care...

31 posted on 06/28/2018 1:56:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Poison Pill
Apples and oranges and I doubt you understand what I wrote at all.

Okay, let me make this as simple as is possible, so that you can now finally understand........

When humans were the ones doing the trading, on the floor ( not RRs...TRADERS and those who held THE BOOK ), if some idiot made a mistake that drove the market up or down, FOR NO REASON, the others could do things that would correct it, though sometimes that could take a day or days.

When the famous CRASH OF 29 hit, there WERE steps taken to correct the mess and it was actually working. Then Papa Joe Kennedy and his consortium stepped in to make it crash farther, but even that was fought against. What actually managed to upset the apple cart, was 1) FDR ( who extended the Depression for many years through lousy, lefty politics) 2)the fact that the rest of the world had been battling a severe Recession or Depression since the end of WW I 3) dirty traders who were actually making money from the Crash 4) not enough money/people trying to save the market, against the short sellers.

There had been many previous "CRASHES" and Depressions ( some even worse the the one in '29, which most people, now, know nothing at all about ) which were "saved"/corrected by a combination of things, not the least of which were the people on the floor!

And FYI..."price" used to represent "value" and it should still!

This does NOT "give the investor an advantage" at all!

What part of algorithms have NO FEELING NOR INTUITION, don't you understand? These programs are set to go up or down depending on certain set figures...just figures...NEVER any facts ! So if some fat fingered moron hits SELL and the sell # has had many zeros added, by mistake ( and yes, this did happen! ), all of the programs pick up the sale and also sell.

32 posted on 06/28/2018 2:00:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re welcome and your certainty was/is correct! :-)


33 posted on 06/28/2018 2:01:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“:^)


34 posted on 06/28/2018 2:03:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne
;^)
35 posted on 06/28/2018 2:07:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DoodleDawg

To be is to do - Socrates

To do is to be - Sartre

Doo Be Doo Be Doo Doo - Doodoo D.


36 posted on 06/28/2018 3:03:14 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: nopardons
"price" used to represent "value"

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37 posted on 06/28/2018 3:10:30 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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