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Extreme body modification: Amputees risk death by cutting off own limbs (Sex "reassignment" too)
Daily Star ^ | 16th June 2018 | Tom Fish

Posted on 06/17/2018 8:35:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Forget extreme plastic surgery, tattoos and piercings - a minority are taking body modification to the next level - by voluntarily cutting off their own limbs.

A body modifier has exclusively revealed how his "extra" limbs feel alien, and has resorted to the drastic measure of self-mutilation - because he actually want to be disabled.

Dr. Michael First, a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University, has led investigations into this bizarre and extremely rare psychiatric condition which he is calling body integrity identity disorder (BIID).

Also known as amputee identity disorder, it gives people a fierce desire to rid themselves of perfectly healthy limbs.

Daily Star Online speaks exclusively to BIID sufferer Howard Bull, 54.

“I had been experimenting with crippling my toes for a few years - breaking, freezing, and smashing them”, he said.

“I broke my big toe last May after binding it a lot with a bandage then hitting it with a hammer.

“I never let it heal, and by July I had to go to the hospital because the pain was unbearable.”

However, not to be dissuaded, Howard set to work on his second toe.

“I froze it twice with keyboard cleaner and crushed it with a vice before additionally dislocating it - the pain it is part of the process.

“And now I am working on my third toe - it is bent at an angle towards where the others used to be.”

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“I had been experimenting with crippling my toes for a few years - breaking, freezing, and smashing them” BIID sufferer Howard Bull

And he admits to having a grisly goal: “What I really want is to lose my left leg high above my knee.”

Asked about the condition’s cause, he replies: “I believe I’ve always had BIID, but I do remember a trigger - I was around 10 when I saw an old Vincent Price movie, which showed a guy who lost all his limbs one by one and I thought ‘how fascinating.’”

Dr. First is among a small group of psychologists and psychiatrists who are trying to define the disorder, understand its origins and decide whether to include it in the encyclopaedic bible of psychiatry as a fully-fledged disease.

The idea of having extreme elective surgery, even when it involves mutilation or removal of healthy tissue, has met at least some acceptance in cases like sex reassignment, or cosmetic surgery for those who hate their noses or breasts even when those body parts are objectively fine.

But an obsessive desire for a limb amputation - one that drives people to cut off healthy arms and legs - tests the tolerance of even the most open-minded.

The disorder has led some to injure themselves with guns or chain saws in desperate efforts to force surgical amputations.

And some have even been known to lay across train tracks to achieve their ambitions.

The future looks bleak for suffers, explains Dr. First: “It remains extremely rare for people with BIID to seek help from any health practitioner because of the awareness that the medical profession has little help to offer.

"These people don't feel that it's a limb that needs to be removed because it's ugly or defective in any way, they just feel like it's extra," said Dr First, who has studied the rare disorder for more than 15 years.

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"It's just a sense of discomfort and they just feel like it's not right having it there", he said.

But the stigma attached to the condition - which has been likened to body dysmorphia and even transgenderism - has led to dozens suffering in silence for years.

Dr First said: "The people I've interviewed with this condition suffer tremendously.

"They spend so much time thinking about it, they are preoccupied, their life is unsettled, and after they get the surgery, they appear to be perfectly normal again."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: disorders; dysmorphia; gender; mentalillness; modification; psychiatry; sex
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I decided not to post the pictures. You can click and look yourself.

Whether it's the legs, the arms, the eyes, or the genitals that feel "alien" to a person, the cure is not to cut them off.

Doctors who would do amputations or sex/gender modification to people who hate their own bodies, are acting unethically, and ought to (at least) lose their licenses. I think they should be charged with aggravated mayhem.

As for the BIID and Trans sufferers themselves: they need psychotherapy, not self-maiming or surgical mutilation.

1 posted on 06/17/2018 8:35:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Actually, they need locked up.

Either that, or we can try to convince them that cutting off their own heads is somehow in their own best interest. At least we can keep their DNA out of the gene pool that way.


2 posted on 06/17/2018 8:39:18 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So he ‘identifies’ with the toeless. Wow.


3 posted on 06/17/2018 8:40:01 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Doctors who would do amputations or sex/gender modification to people who hate their own bodies, are acting unethically, and ought to (at least) lose their licenses.

Patients used to have to travel overseas for sex reassignment surgery. American doctors wouldn't perform them. It was considered a violation of their Hippocratic Oath.

These days I don't know if this is still the case. A doctor today in America is likely to face his reputation and practice destroyed as "transphobic" for refusing to cut someone's dick off.

4 posted on 06/17/2018 8:40:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When you accommodate insanity more insanity comes out of the woodwork.


5 posted on 06/17/2018 8:42:03 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So it’s cheaper to cut and be done than to treat the mental disorder, which could last for the rest of their lives.

Now I know why the gov wants to push the fag bit.

It’s cheaper to pretend they’re normal.


6 posted on 06/17/2018 8:43:02 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Obvious sign of demonic possession.


7 posted on 06/17/2018 8:43:54 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Mental illness is a terrible thing


8 posted on 06/17/2018 8:46:39 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

behavior modification and bf skinner were thrown out because he was not politically correct.
But part of his research is valid.


9 posted on 06/17/2018 8:48:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

MODDIEPHOBE! MODDIEPHOBE!. . .Its MODDIE, we are body modifiers and proud members of the LGBTQ & M community, not self-mutilators. . MODDIEPHOBES!! (actually, come to think of it, this might not be satire at all.)


10 posted on 06/17/2018 8:50:43 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

As a recent amputee (my wife also) you don’t know how crazy this sounds. I would give almost anything to have my or my wife’s leg back. Unbelievable.


11 posted on 06/17/2018 8:51:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Rurudyne

When you can get bennies for disability and prime parking spots and so on I expect the “condition” is going to be much more common than it was in say, 1760.


12 posted on 06/17/2018 8:52:27 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

imprinting is part of Gods design. These people have been exposed to something at just the right readiness moment.

This is why porn and perversion with our youth is so dangerous.

This missing limb thing has been in prior research traced back imprinting.

Behaviors are complex but can be modified.


13 posted on 06/17/2018 8:56:19 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The only effective treatment for someone wishing to remove limbs is removal of the frontal lobe of the brain.


14 posted on 06/17/2018 8:56:46 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: BobL

So he ‘identifies’ with the toeless. Wow.

He’s just tired of “toeing” the line.


15 posted on 06/17/2018 8:59:49 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You know, if some SW Company executive sells his firm to Google for $200M, or something, and has pockets bursting with cash, and wants to pay a surgeon for mutilation, that’s his business. Or if Daddy died and left you with a lot of dough, go have your leg cut off. I don’t care.

But why should any insurance company pay for this?
Why should any government money pay for this?

Cash on the barrelhead. If you have a pile of cash and can find a surgeon, fine. But it seems to me that a lot of these people are not contributing to society, they’re just using my money to mutilate themselves. No thank you.


16 posted on 06/17/2018 9:01:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Yes, I get it - racism is bad and mutual respect and inclusion is good. But value Truth too.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I really do not have a problem with death being the result of these people mutilating themselves. I mean, what are we supposed to do convince them that their arm is a natural appendage to their species? I mean just because 6 billion other people have arms doesn’t mean that they should, right? Or am I somehow Mistating science to support my fascist agenda?


17 posted on 06/17/2018 9:03:04 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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“I never let it heal, and by July I had to go to the hospital because the pain was unbearable.”

Yet he continues to enjoy the pain it seems.

You CANNOT fix retarded.

18 posted on 06/17/2018 9:03:37 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: PeterPrinciple; outofsalt
Well, I know a sweet slender girl who was anorexic in high school. She really thought her body looked and felt grossly fat, although she'd gotten to the point where she was near-skeletal. The doctor told her frankly that if she didn't cooperate with mental health intervention and a program of trained eating, it would end in death.

The body-modifying doctors would probably say "Yeah, if you think you're too fat, you're too fat" and "treat" her by giving her a gastric bypass!!!

BTW after a couple of years of counseling and coaching, she seems to be OK now. Still slender but in the normal range. Thank God.

19 posted on 06/17/2018 9:10:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In Ireland I still have left 700,000 who have not bent the knee to Baal nor kissed him on the mouth.)
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To: unixfox

Yeah you can, but it ain’t easy. Anorexics are similar: they can be turned around, but it takes time, patience and determination.


20 posted on 06/17/2018 9:12:06 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In Ireland I still have left 700,000 who have not bent the knee to Baal nor kissed him on the mouth.)
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