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Commentary: The Media’s Defense Of Obama Administration Spying Defies Logic
The Federalist ^ | May 23, 2018 | by David Harsanyi

Posted on 05/23/2018 1:16:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

It doesn’t matter what you think about Donald Trump — revelations that a major party’s administration was spying on another one deserve a seriousness that’s lacking in major media coverage. A recent piece by CNN’s Chris Cillizza encapsulates many of the absurd talking points adopted by an extraordinarily incurious media. And when I say incurious, I mean they’ve taken to actively dismissing evidence regarding a story that would be a huge deal in any other era.

The persistent claim that Trump is abusing power for engaging in actions that are well within his purview is especially galling coming from people who would often characterize the previous administration’s numerous abuses as nothing. Even today we are relegated to a Clintonian parsing of words to describe events.

Many journalists take umbrage at the contention that there was spying going on, because “spying” sounds far too serious for their liking. But it’s the right word. A spy is a “person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.”

Now, perhaps we’re going to find out that informants were warranted and that their presence did not predate the official launch of the investigation. We might learn that a number of Trump’s associates were part of some scheme to work with Russia’s Vladimir Putin during 2016. There is, to this point, “zero evidence” that is the case. It’s hardly a conspiracy theory, no matter how over-the-top or politically motivated the president’s comments might be, to investigate the Obama administration’s actions.

Bad opinions aren’t illegal. Putin’s support for a particular campaign doesn’t immediately translate into criminality. What kind of precedent are we setting if there’s no investigation into the Obama administration’s actions?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; journalism; media; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; witchhunt
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1 posted on 05/23/2018 1:16:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are committed communist operatives. The ends justify the means. They don’t care how.


2 posted on 05/23/2018 1:23:08 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Liberals used to say, its not the facts that matter, its the seriousness of the charge.

Well this is a serious charge. Its fascinating to watch how they worm their way out of denying it has merit.

Just don’t accuse them of hypocrisy.


3 posted on 05/23/2018 1:25:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The media is basically useless. That’s why no one listens to them. They aren’t even entertaining.


4 posted on 05/23/2018 1:27:19 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Deep state media DSM.

It’s simply the communications division for deep state.


5 posted on 05/23/2018 1:27:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This only defies logic, until you realize some day, that the Deep State owns/controls the DNC, the DOJ/FBI/CIA, our media and its fake news/lying mediots.


6 posted on 05/23/2018 1:32:33 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; x; Bull Snipe; jeffersondem
Commentary: The Media’s Defense Of Obama Administration Spying Defies Logic

Not when you recognize they are different components of the same power clique.

7 posted on 05/23/2018 1:36:00 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Leftist press lost it’s ability to reason over the last 60 years.

It has boiled down to a pathetic goo, that gums up everything on it’s way to our ears.


8 posted on 05/23/2018 1:36:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Civil War
by Jack Minzey

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge. That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.
What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country. The Democrat’s system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has ‘discretion’ to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the ‘discretion’ to reverse him. That’s how the game is played That’s how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.

Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That’s not a free country.

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an ‘insurance policy’ against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.


9 posted on 05/23/2018 1:36:36 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Grampa Dave
This only defies logic, until you realize some day, that the Deep State owns/controls the DNC, the DOJ/FBI/CIA, our media and its fake news/lying mediots.

And has, for a very long time.

10 posted on 05/23/2018 1:36:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DJ Taylor
Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

We've been in this war for decades.

11 posted on 05/23/2018 1:38:52 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DiogenesLamp

This only defies logic, until you realize some day, that the Deep State owns/controls the DNC, the DOJ/FBI/CIA, our media and its fake news/lying mediots.

And has, for a very long time.

For years/decades and maybe a century going back on the NY Slimes hiding the slaughter of millions of Russians by the original communists.


12 posted on 05/23/2018 1:44:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks for posting this. There are at least 3 of us aware of this reality: our MSM is owned controlled by the Deep State Elites.


13 posted on 05/23/2018 1:46:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: DiogenesLamp; dragnet2

Commentary: The Media’s Defense Of Obama Administration Spying Defies Logic.

Not when you recognize they are different components of the same power clique.

Well, there are at least 3 of us, who can see the reality of how our mediots/media are controlled by the Deep State Elite.


14 posted on 05/23/2018 1:48:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Commentary: The Media’s Defense Of Obama Administration Spying Defies Logic

Not really. The MSM-13 are Hate America communists.

15 posted on 05/23/2018 1:57:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

bmp


16 posted on 05/23/2018 2:02:24 PM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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MSM and the FBI had the spin loaded and ready gee it’s almost as if they were working together. At least these bastards know how to go on offense. Unlike our side.


17 posted on 05/23/2018 2:06:43 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The ability of the Deep State players to evade long Federal prison terms let alone raids or indictment DEFIES LOGIC.

Obama, Jarrett, Rice, Mills, Huma, DWS & THE AWAN BROS., Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Lynch, Rosenstein, Stzok, Page, Halper, TO NAME A FEW, ALL BELONG IN FEDERAL PRISON for their CONSPIRACY TO OVERTHROW A DULY-ELECTED PRESIDENT. We used to call this TREASON and the penalty was DEATH.

My my my how EMASCULATED we've become and apparently the RULE OF LAW ONLY APPLIES TO REPUBLICANS LIKE MANAFORT AND MICHAEL FLYNN (although I think it's possible Flynn was a Brennan-operative and his indictment is possibly 'cover' to hide his real role).

18 posted on 05/23/2018 2:11:06 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hitler had the Ministry of Propaganda and it was used exquisitely to disarm and control the people. The DC establishment has the Main Stream Media and they’re trying to emulate Hitler’s results.


19 posted on 05/23/2018 2:20:55 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: CivilWarBrewing

When Eric Holder and Lois Lerner got away with their felonies, the Criminal Deep State was off and running.


20 posted on 05/23/2018 2:27:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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