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U.S. top court backs companies over worker class-action claims
Rueters via Yahoo ^ | 5/21/2018 | Lawrence Hurley

Posted on 05/21/2018 11:36:50 AM PDT by freedumb2003

I think Yahoo or Rueters is link only. Bottom line: a contract willingly signed by an employee to eschew class-actions suits is actually a contract willingly signed by an employee to eschew class-actions suits.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: contracts; employment; scotus
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Imagine that! A contract waiving some rights in exchange for a paycheck is a CONTRACT!!!
1 posted on 05/21/2018 11:36:50 AM PDT by freedumb2003
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To: freedumb2003

The rule of (contract) law is essential for a function economic system in society.


2 posted on 05/21/2018 11:43:41 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: freedumb2003

Justice Kennedy decides the law again. He is the law.


3 posted on 05/21/2018 11:49:11 AM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: freedumb2003

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/supreme-court-rules-employers-block-class-action-lawsuits/story?id=55323960


4 posted on 05/21/2018 11:50:32 AM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: freedumb2003
The Justices did not "back" anything other than the rule of law and enforcement of a federal statute.

What they did not "back," and the minority did, was the right of rich Democrat class action lawyers to fleece millions out of employers while giving "crumbs" to the worker/plaintiffs.

5 posted on 05/21/2018 11:52:12 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: freedumb2003

Been firing liberals since 2008. See tagline. 4 of them tried. Then we sued these clowns just for fun when they lost. I hate liberals.


6 posted on 05/21/2018 11:54:15 AM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: SMGFan
Justice Kennedy decides the law again. He is the law.

Drudge has a link today to a story that retirement rumors for Kennedy are in "overdrive" so we may soon be watching the confirmation fight of all confirmation fights. (that of course assumes there are "Republicans" willing to fight for anything remotely conservative, which is a big leap)
7 posted on 05/21/2018 11:56:29 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: freedumb2003
And if you don't want to sign the contract then you can go find a job somewhere else ... especially if you're the best person in the world at your job which everyone should be or else they are losers.

Never mind that most corporate CEOs went to the same colleges, drank the same Kool-Aid, and require their employees to sign virtually identical contracts.

So really you can't just choose to work for some other company, but then why would you want to work for someone else and be a wage slave loser?

Everyone should start his/her own company and work for him/herself. Otherwise they're losers.

Of course you may not get the major corporations to subcontract out to your company if you don't have the appropriate sexual harassment, diversity, affirmative hiring, etc. practices. And if you don't want to do all the work yourself you'll have to hire losers who want to be your wage slaves.

Moral of the story: Lawyers eff things up.

8 posted on 05/21/2018 11:57:26 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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A contract waiving some rights in exchange for a paycheck is a CONTRACT!!!

Is this about severance pay being held hostage to NDA's and no future litigation over H-1B or other worker discrimination actions?

Generally speaking, a "paycheck" in its common use is in exchange for services rendered. "Severance" is supplemental pay to compensate a long-term employee for sudden loss of income, usually to cover household expenses until other employment can be obtained.

Linking severance pay with waiving of rights is a de facto signing a contract under duress. If the issue is that workers signed the contracts under duress and now have regrets, then you might get away with saying that a contract is a contract.

For the workers who did not sign the contract but still demand to sue for severance, that's another matter entirely as there is no underlying contract.

-PJ

9 posted on 05/21/2018 11:58:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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>>The rule of (contract) law is essential for a function economic system in society.<<

I have had some knockdown, drag-outs here on FR about the ability for an individual to contract away their Constitutional Rights.

Other than maybe voting and rights related to prosecution, every single right in the BOR can be signed away. Perhaps even voting (who knows?).

You can certainly sign away the parts of the 4th and 5th as part of an employment contract.

I am sure some will challenge me by examples of what CAN’T be signed away but I suggest that a contract with the military substituting the UCMJ for USC negates most or all of those.

JMHO.


10 posted on 05/21/2018 11:58:29 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: LostInBayport

That will be news if he actually announces. I posted similar story as chat earlier.
Sometimes rumors are lies.


11 posted on 05/21/2018 12:00:54 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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>>Everyone should start his/her own company and work for him/herself. Otherwise they’re losers.<<

That’s a little harsh. Everyone has their price. I am willing to bet for $XX a year you would go to work for someone else (fill in XX yourself).

Not everyone has the personality to own their own business. It is frightening, hard and requires a risk profile many do not have.


12 posted on 05/21/2018 12:01:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: freedumb2003
I read the article, and this does not appear to be about the recent stories of workers forced to sign contracts to train their replacements in order to receive severance pay.

-PJ

13 posted on 05/21/2018 12:03:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: SMGFan

And Kennedy might retire next month.


14 posted on 05/21/2018 12:06:18 PM PDT by rdl6989
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>>I read the article, and this does not appear to be about the recent stories of workers forced to sign contracts to train their replacements in order to receive severance pay.<<

Yes, well who am I to correct people’s comments on issues not covered in the article?

My reading was this was about voluntarily signing away rights to class actions against the employer.


15 posted on 05/21/2018 12:27:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: freedumb2003

Wait till someone writes a contract that makes the employee agree to binding arbitration in sexual harassment or race discrimination cases.

That should tie our entire Federal Court system in knots for the next thirteen years.


16 posted on 05/21/2018 12:27:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks freedumb2003.

17 posted on 05/21/2018 12:28:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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>>Wait till someone writes a contract that makes the employee agree to binding arbitration in sexual harassment or race discrimination cases.

That should tie our entire Federal Court system in knots for the next thirteen years.<<

This case would probably tip the scales to the employer. I have not read the case but I suspect it deals more with the ability of Employees to sign their own rights away.

But I think there are federal laws on the books NOT including the right to class action that may be controlling.

I would be like trying to sign away the ADA (the “don’t hire a disabled person no matter what” actp) protections.

Complex stuff.


18 posted on 05/21/2018 12:31:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: freedumb2003
To some degree, the ruling seems like dancing on the head of a pin.

On the one hand, I can see protection against class-action in the workforce when the unstated claim is that employment, job performance and pay, and assignments and promotions are based on an individual's merits. If people think they were discriminated against, they should individually sue.

From a collective perspective, if this were a collective bargaining situation (aka, unions), then this provision likely would not have been included. If the individuals want to collectivize, then perhaps they need an outside force to bring the suit against the company, such as a district attorney if there are systemic EEOC violations?

-PJ

19 posted on 05/21/2018 12:39:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: freedumb2003

Class actions only enrich the lawyers, one BOTH SIDES. Companies pay millions and millions to defend and the plaintiff lawyers get all the legal fees from the verdict or settlement. Wronged employees, if there were even wronged in the first place, get coupons a few bucks.


20 posted on 05/21/2018 12:46:08 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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