Posted on 05/10/2018 10:57:30 AM PDT by navysealdad
Based on the logic in the post. Carter Page was an FBI throwdown.
Thinking it thru it’s the timing that is the problem. Page worked for the Trump campaign for a month, then a month or more later he made his trip to Russia. If the FBI was using him to conduct surveillance on Trump then that implies that Page was an FBI plant from the outset and that he was working for the FBI when he went to Russia. But the wiretap was not implemented until after the trip to Russia. I am not sure the timing makes any sense.
Maybe he became an FBI source only after the trip to Russia. In which case I don’t see the national security issue, nor do I see why they call him a “secret” source. I figured Page talked to Mueller already. Seems pretty obvious in fact. Maybe he’s already pled to something we don’t know about. But you wonder why it’s so important to keep it secret.
My understanding is that it was not.
Whenever one points out this fact to the NTs, they scream, “But Papadopoulos!” Funny stuff went on with he and the Aussie as well. It was all an illegal setup from the beginning and heads need to roll.”
TL;DR summary: All of these theories are too clever by half, and the known statements and actions of the principals involved blow each and every one of these dumbass theories right out of the water.
Why would Trump? Only guessing I would suspect Trump's NatSec people have told him that it's eventually going to come out, and it would be better politically if he weren't seen as outing "sources and methods."
I was thinking the 702 was the most intrusive warrant grant. The 702's were the queries, which NSA reported as illegal to the FISC and dried up. It was Title I. We were talking about the same thing, but I have the types reversed.
Correct Title references at CTH and here: http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/372233-nunes-memo-raises-question-did-fbi-violate-woods-procedures among many other places.
He was cooperating with them long before. But what I’m now wondering is whether Page was a CIA spy all along, installed by the CIA in the Trump campaign in the wake of Papadopoulos. He spent some time in Moscow working for Merrill Lynch. Could have been just a cover. If so then this whole Trump-Russia scenario is nothing but a construct by the FBI and the discussion about Page in the Dossier was just fiction and the FBI knew it all along because they wrote it. So it may be that the only part of this whole escapade that has any legitimacy is the Papadopoulos investigation which ended with Papadopolous pleading guilty to lying about nothing more than the date on which he met a British professor. The rest of it may just be smoke and mirrors.
I am in accord.
One big problem for the cabal...
If the cabal placed Page... they and all of their contacts are now subject to a FISA warrant.
I personally thinhk it would be better to refer to these with more descriptive shorthand jargon to reduce the risk of error and confusion. But I'm more a reader than a writer.
“senior FBI and national intelligence officials relayed an urgent message to the White House: Information being sought by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes could endanger a top-secret intelligence source.”
Well you can’t have your Constitutional oversight entity actually be allowed to SEE what you are doing, can you? Police state, pure and simple.
I want to hear an argument that the House intelligence committee, which possesses all required clearances and has a NEED to know, cannot be allowed to see information from an agency whom they directly oversee, and whom they could literally disband in an afternoon, defund, and impeach all the leaders there.
The argument is senseless.
““If we were to just open our doors to allow Congress to come and rummage through the files, that would be a serious infringement on the separation of powers, and it might resolve a dispute today, but it would have negative repercussions in the long run, and we have a responsibility to defend the institution,” Rosenstein said.”
So according to Rosenstein, Congress may be kept in the dark to maintain separation of powers. He seems not to be aware that in an afternoon, Congress possesses the legal power to impeach him, and wrap up the day by completely shuttering the DOJ and FBI, neither of which are found in the Constitution.
Rosenstein is ample evidence that we now live in a form of government that is at best, a benevolent dictatorship and only sees the constitution as a parlor game in which all dictatorship policies must be placed in “constitutional language”.
Its a farce.
Which is why the name must be given
Do you think he’s being invited to participate in Russian investments or conferences these days? He commented some time ago his business was ruined. Legal fees? Anyones guess
Possibly. South had a draft. So did the North.
They had riots in NY City because of the draft.
That was a terrible war. That part of US history I try to avoid.
Some of my ancestors were displaced because of it.
Now that one makes sense. If it were the ComDems involved, there would be another Arkancide.
“FISA Section 702
The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has introduced the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017 (S. 139, as amended) to renew Section 702 authorities for six years while making key reforms to the program to strengthen privacy protections for Americans.
Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act authorizes the Intelligence Community to target the communications of non-U.S. persons located outside the United States for foreign intelligence purposes.
A key anti-terror tool that has helped to thwart numerous terror plots including the 2009 conspiracy to bomb the New York City subway, Section 702 operations are subject to multiple layers of oversight by all three branches of government.
The FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017 was originally introduced as H.R. 4478 and was later advanced as S. 139 as amended.?
This 702?
A number of people have asked the question where his money comes from. It’s not very clear how he ever made a living before he became widely known. Another good reason to believe he’s a cut-out. But whose? That’s the question.
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