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The New York Times Best-Seller List: My Response to the Times' Response
Townhall.com ^ | April 24, 2018 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 04/24/2018 6:19:08 AM PDT by Kaslin

In my last column -- "The New York Times Best-Seller List: Another Reason Americans Don't Trust the Media" -- I used my recently published book as evidence that The New York Times best-seller list is not a best-seller list.

I pointed out that the book, "The Rational Bible: Exodus," the first volume of my commentary on the first five books of the Bible (the Torah), did not appear on The New York Times best-seller list even though it was:

--No. 2 on the Wall Street Journal nonfiction best-seller list.

--No. 2 on the Publishers Weekly nonfiction best-seller list.

--No. 2 in hardcover nonfiction on Nielsen BookScan, which tracks 75 to 85 percent of book sales. According to BookScan, the book outsold 14 of the 15 books on The New York Times hardcover nonfiction list.

--No. 1 on Ingram, the largest book wholesaler in the country.

And, as of this writing, "The Rational Bible" fluctuates between the top 10 and top 40 of all books -- on all subjects -- on Amazon.

There are, therefore, only two possibilities: All other indicators of book sales in America including all objective ones (Ingram and BookScan) are wrong, or The New York Times best-seller list is wrong.

Apparently, such evidence and other arguments I offered were strong enough to compel The New York Times to defend itself in a series of tweets from NYTimes Communications. The liberal internet site Mediate headlined its story on the tweets "NY Times PR Roasts Conservative Author Dennis Prager For 'Hypocrisy' in Rare and Stunning Tweetstorm."

But The Times' "rare and stunning" response only strengthened any honest observer's conviction that its best-seller list isn't a best-seller list -- that due to ideological reasons, simple incompetence or both, it is actually the least accurate major best-seller list in the country.

The Times tweeted, "Political views held and expressed by authors have no bearing on our rankings."

Few conservatives in the book industry believe that. For example, Regnery Publishing, the publisher of my book, announced a year ago The Times list is so ideologically biased Regenery would no longer announce whether any of its authors are New York Times best-selling authors. And even fewer in the religious community believe it: Does The New York Times regularly include sales data from Christian bookstores, for example?

Of course, in order to assume The New York Times is unbiased when it comes to conservative and religious books, one has to assume The Times is unbiased when reporting on other conservative and religious matters. And it isn't.

But even if one does believe The Times has no ideological agenda, its best-seller list is still the most inaccurate of all major best-seller lists. That's why none of The Times' tweets contradicted anything I wrote. Instead The Times did what progressive institutions and individuals routinely do when differed with: attacked the individual.

"Hypocrisy alert," The Times tweet warned. "@DennisPrager wrote a dishonest essay about our best-sellers lists. He claims, 'I have long known it isn't a best-seller list, and I don't pay attention to it.' Though he lists 'NYT best-selling author' on his twitter bio and his own site."

Actually, I did write that a previous book of mine was on The Times list. And I don't pay attention to the list unless I have just published a book. Moreover, why does listing that I am a New York Times best-selling author render me a hypocrite? Like every author, I write books in the hope that many people will read them, and I know listing "New York Times best-selling author" helps sell books.

Anyway, what connection is there between my alleged hypocrisy and whether The New York Times best-seller list is legitimate? The answer, of course, is there isn't one. What The Times did is what the left usually does to those with whom it differs and cannot effectively respond to -- slapped on a morally defective label. It's so common a practice I long ago gave it an acronym: SIXHIRB, Sexist, Intolerant, Xenophobic, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Racist, Bigoted. "Hypocrite" fits right in.

Most importantly, The Times tweets label my column as "dishonest" and declare that it "has no basis in fact and includes a number of factual inaccuracies."

Yet The Times provided but one -- dubious -- example of an inaccuracy: It said it doesn't have Jordan Peterson's No. 1 best-selling nonfiction book anywhere on its list because the book is published in Canada. Apparently, a book published by Random House Canada doesn't qualify as an American-published book (even though the Random House Canada parent company, Random House, is an American publisher). But doesn't that only reconfirm that The New York Times best-seller list is not actually a best-seller list? The others list the book.

The reason The Times doesn't offer any other example of inaccuracy in what I wrote is that it can't. Instead it offers this statement: "Rankings on different organization's best-seller lists vary for a variety of reasons. Other organizations rely on book sales from different reporting stores and reporting periods."

In other words, the Wall Street Journal, Publishers Weekly, USA Today, Ingram and BookScan are all wrong. Only The New York Times best-seller list is right.

I am sure most of its readers believe that. But most of the country doesn't. And so long as The Times refuses to open up about how it arrives at its unique numbers, no one should believe it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: academicbias; bestsellerslist; lyingliars; newyorkslimes; timeslies

1 posted on 04/24/2018 6:19:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What do you expect out of the New York Slimes?


2 posted on 04/24/2018 6:22:38 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Kaslin

>>Apparently, a book published by Random House Canada doesn’t qualify as an American-published book (even though the Random House Canada parent company, Random House, is an American publisher). But doesn’t that only reconfirm that The New York Times best-seller list is not actually a best-seller list? The others list the book.

Aren’t many books published outside of the US these days? For decades this has been the case. Even the little booklets in your CD albums often contain a “printed in Canada” logo. And for art books, printing has been done in China, Japan, Germany, etc.

When movies are filmed in Canada (or Eastern Europe) but set in the United States, are they listed as “foreign films” or ranked alongside of the other stateside films?


3 posted on 04/24/2018 6:27:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Kaslin

Forty years ago, the NY Times was actively quoted. People across the nation subscribed to it, and it was the intellectual’s national newspaper (along with the WaPo). Over the past decade, they’ve stumbled. They’ve lost their bearings. Their slant, while still with the intellectual crowd....isn’t selling with blue-state democrats anymore. A lot of people have given up on it....along with the traditional Time/Newsweek crowd, and the four networks (PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC).

In essence, people moved on.


4 posted on 04/24/2018 6:28:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: antidemoncrat
What do you expect out of the New York Slimes?

All of the bias that we see as fit to print!

5 posted on 04/24/2018 6:30:09 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Kaslin

I recall with his last book Mark Levin mentioning this on a few of his shows. His book, by all measures (including , I think he called it Book Scan) was selling more copies, WAY more copies, than books ahead of it on the NYT list.

And I seem to also recall at least one of those books that was listed ahead of his, while selling fewer copies by any measure, was a liberal author’s book.

Add to this the news about how AMZN is preventing people from posting negative reviews of Comey’s book (which a caller mentioned on Rush’s show a few days ago and is now on Breitbart as a legit story), and is there any doubt who these places favor?


6 posted on 04/24/2018 6:45:33 AM PDT by Breyean
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To: Breyean

Shadow banning isn’t just for Twitter and Facebook it seems


7 posted on 04/24/2018 6:58:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: antidemoncrat
I agree with NY Times on this.

I don't doubt that Prager is doing well in selling his book because he has a great marketing platform thru Salem. That doesn't mean it is a great book

It was the same thing with Bill O'Reilly selling his book on Killing Jesus. He had a great marketing platform.

Exodus is a worthy subject but why read something by Prager? He wasn't educated in this field. He never worked in this field. He has been a radio man all his life. I imagine he is good at that. He has a wonderful voice.

8 posted on 04/24/2018 7:20:01 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: antidemoncrat

Yeah, this is a dog bites man story.


9 posted on 04/24/2018 7:52:41 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Kaslin

obama and the Clintons are on the best seller lists.....


10 posted on 04/24/2018 10:39:32 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Kaslin

This will soon be a non-issue. Because the NYT will soon be out of business.

NYT: top of my worst seller list.


11 posted on 04/24/2018 10:54:51 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Kaslin
As an aside, has anyone else notice that the Townhall comments section has been more aggressively attacked by trolls lately?

Even this article had a troll post a thread hijacking non-sequitur as the third post that is intended to derail the comments into a Trump back-and-forth for pages and pages. This is intended to frustrate readers into giving up on discussing the article.

They do this on every article over at Townhall. Nobody moderates it over there.

-PJ

12 posted on 04/24/2018 11:01:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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