Think it's harmless? Now nine in ten teens at drug clinics are being treated for marijuana use

The Daily Mail (United Kingdom) ^ | April 22, 2018 | STEPHEN ADAMS and MARTIN BECKFORD

[chris37]

Maybe.

You can’t save someone from their own demon.

That’s a battle someone has to win on their own, and the only one who can help them is Jesus.

[DungeonMaster]

Ken, so your point is that we cannot talk realistically about the bad/harmful aspects of pot ...because alcohol exists?

Solid argument. Go with that.

That's the main argument. I dismiss it. But then there's not much to talk about.

[familyop]

"Total BS, these people are just lazy, their Millennials, it’s what they do."

Many of them are lazy. Each time we see the parent of a lazy one, the reason becomes obvious. Many other Millennials here and there, tough, clean and straight, are being taught to ventilate dope fiends without age discrimination if attacked.

[varyouga]

I said there are NO studies showing such a thing.

Yet for every OTC drug, you can immediately show direct damage.

[Noamie]

Wait till the FDA finishes their studies on weed.

[gundog]

P.J. O’Rourke said that drugs are like a one-man birthday party; you don’t get any presents you didn’t bring. I like “mental paw-paw parch, “ though.

[RFEngineer]

“I’ve never been stopped and searched looking for untaxed alcohol or tobacco at the whims of law enforcement, nor do I know anyone who has. Do you?”

Google it. Tobacco, liquor, and pot in states that border legal states.

[RFEngineer]

They will be arrested on tax charges. California, for instance is finding that legal weed is not stopping the black market because it is so heavily taxed.

[NobleFree]

Think that you won’t be stopped and searched looking for untaxed pot at the whims of law enforcement?

I've never been stopped and searched looking for untaxed alcohol or tobacco at the whims of law enforcement, nor do I know anyone who has. Do you?

Google it. Tobacco, liquor, and pot in states that border legal states.

"States that border legal states" is a different issue than taxation. As for the tobacco and liquor - your claim, your burden of proof.

[ClearBlueSky]

But, but, it's harmless. The same as cigarettes! Better, because evidently POT smoke isn't as offensive, or bad for your lungs(even secondhand) as tobacco. Isn't that right? I don't get it. Why 'treat' pot heads? Why treat ANYONE who WILLINGLY takes a drug? Isn't that countermanding their free will?

I assume that anyone willingly taking a drug wants the drug to affect them. Let it. Who's picking up the tab for these pot heads? I wouldn't treat them OR give Narcan to anyone. You choose dope and do it to the point of addiction , I respect your choice.

[RFEngineer]

It’s all about taxes. It happens all the time with liquor,smokes and will also happen with pot....eclipsing pre-legalized pot possession.

Google it yourself. If you don’t believe that states enforce their tax laws on tobacco, liqour, and soon pot, that’s fine with me.

[familyop]

You made some good points. We’ll have to defend ourselves against various attacks from many of the zombies who will get maniacal at times, though. And for the time being, many of them are still in locally high places and other positions of public trust here and there.

[familyop]

There’s also this.

Drug use tops booze for first time in fatal U.S. crashes: study
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-drugs-crashes/drug-use-tops-booze-for-first-time-in-fatal-u-s-crashes-study-idUSKBN17S2P5

Drug Impaired Driving
A Guide for States
GHSA
http://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2017-04/GHSA_DruggedDriving2017_FINAL.pdf

Nothing significant has been done about it, though. Many people in high places are potheads and very politically active. Few non-addicts want to get involved. Police answer complaints about incidents with, in essence, “So what? What do you want me to do about it?” Too many of them are getting high, too, and drug tests aren’t being done without announcements behind the scenes in advance in many jurisdictions.

That’s why it’s been spreading so fast. There’s no “war on drugs.” What we’re seeing is something more like local campaigns across the country to get as many addicted as possible while blocking efforts against it.

[familyop]

This is about one of the drug-addled replies from the MADD lefties to the drug problem on the highways.

Study on drug-impaired driving gets pushback — from other safety advocates
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tripping/wp/2017/05/01/study-on-drugged-driving-gets-pushback-from-other-safety-advocates/?noredirect=on

[NobleFree]

If you don’t believe that states enforce their tax laws on tobacco, liqour, and soon pot

I don't believe your claim that people are "stopped and searched looking for untaxed {goods] at the whims of law enforcement" - and you've offered no evidence for it. I call BS.

[NobleFree]

Drug use tops booze for first time in fatal U.S. crashes: study

"The study included any substance that can impair driving, including illegal drugs, prescription medications, legal non-medicinal drugs and over-the-counter medicines."

Should we ban them all?

[bankwalker]

No. But maybe consider banning the operation of vehicles on public roads while using them.

[NobleFree]

But maybe consider banning the operation of vehicles on public roads while using them.

I believe all jurisdictions that have legalized marijuana also ban driving while impaired by it - and rightly so.

[NobleFree]

A Google search for tobacco OR alcohol tax "search" shows no evidence for your claim that people are "stopped and searched looking for untaxed [goods] at the whims of law enforcement".

Time for you to put up or shut up.

[familyop]

"The study included any substance that can impair driving, including illegal drugs, prescription medications, legal non-medicinal drugs and over-the-counter medicines."

"Should we ban them all?"

Ban the users from driving and carrying weapons? That's already illegal. Ban the substances from use while driving and carrying weapons? That's already done.

It's a sticky culture with pit bulls, childish, homicidal traffic tantrums, conspiracy theory obsessions, paranoid plotting and scheming and much creeping.